Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

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Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby Timmytwang01 on Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:59 am

I picked up an old quad box loaded with Rola Celestion G12-80 speakers. Having no use for a quad box, I pulled a pair from the box to load them into a 2X12 open back box. I noticed that the cone number on the speakers is 1105. I've read that the 1105 is supposedly a low frequency cone and often is accompanied by a whizzer cone, however my G12-80s have the 1105 cones and NO whizzer (thankfully). Well.... these speakers quite frankly are AMAZING!!!! The bottom end is tight and huge and the trebles are crisp and beautiful. I honestly rate these at the top of the heap and I don't say this lightly. I'm a speaker junkie and have pairs of very early G12M greenbacks, Fane's, G12-65's, Weber's, Lorantz's, Eminence's, Vintage 30s with 444 cones, EVM12l's, a variety of G12K celestions, Weber California's, Jensen's etc etc (it's ridiculous I know... but I think I have around 60 guitar speakers).
Anyway, I just wanted to rave a bit about the G12-80's. I am literally thrilled with these speakers. They are one of the most musical speakers that I've ever heard for guitar. They work sublimely with a Telecaster. I actually think they've edged out my EVM12L's. I'm definitely in the honeymoon phase, but I think this is going to be a long relationship.
Does anyone else have these G12-80's with the 1105 cones?? I'd love to hear some other opinions.
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby ekkybedmond on Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:11 am

Must try and find me one of these.

Only in 15Ohm I understand though ?
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby OldSchoolDave on Sat Nov 05, 2016 3:05 pm

ekkybedmond wrote:Must try and find me one of these.

Only in 15Ohm I understand though ?


I have a 4 ohm model. It found me - I wasn't looking for it. Came out of some amp back in the 80's and was on the spare parts shelf of a local store.

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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby Timmytwang01 on Sun Nov 06, 2016 5:26 am

Have you tried it out Dave? Does it have the 1105 cone? They have the same bottom end thump as a Vintage 30 but none of the harshness.
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby OldSchoolDave on Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:18 pm

Timmytwang01 wrote:Have you tried it out Dave? Does it have the 1105 cone? They have the same bottom end thump as a Vintage 30 but none of the harshness.


It's currently inside a box, inside a trunk, inside my warehouse. If I get close to it, I'll check out the cone code.

For awhile, I was powering it with a 50 watt Marshall Tremolo and, yes, I liked the sound very much. Kind of an unorthodox setup - as I was powering the JBL D120F with the Twin Reverb and the Celestion with the Marshall (A/B/Y switching between):

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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby Timmytwang01 on Mon Nov 07, 2016 12:44 am

Interesting set-up Dave!! The best of both worlds :thumbsup:
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby LD50 on Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:40 am

OldSchoolDave wrote:
For awhile, I was powering it with a 50 watt Marshall Tremolo and, yes, I liked the sound very much. Kind of an unorthodox setup - as I was powering the JBL D120F with the Twin Reverb and the Celestion with the Marshall (A/B/Y switching between):

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Yes cool set up.
Contemplating using a pair of 65s in on half of a 4x12 and pair of Golds in the other half with a 2204 for the 65s and AC30TB for the Golds. I don't have any Fenders (and the Twin must be really loud) but maybe a FDR would work?
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby OldSchoolDave on Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:38 pm

LD50 wrote:I don't have any Fenders (and the Twin must be really loud) but maybe a FDR would work?


The Twin Reverb can be really loud, but I use it for clean tone at any volume. FYI, that (original) cabinet eventually distintegrated, after 3+ decades of hard work. The chassis now resides in a slightly newer (but much lower mileage) cabinet and powers two D120F's.

It all depends on what sound you're after. A Deluxe Reverb can sound great, but may break up too soon. For clean, I'd go with at least a pair of 6L6 output tubes (plenty of Fenders in that category).

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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby OldSchoolDave on Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:02 pm

Update: I was in the neighborhood and pulled my G12-80 out of its trunk today. The very difficult to read (black ink) cone code is 444 (the typical 55Hz model). Not sure if mine is the exception or the rule.

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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby BygoneTones on Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:16 pm

"G12-80" is not the model of the speaker. Just like G12H or G12M is not one specific speaker model. There are a large number of variations of G12-80, probably about 85 different ones. You need to look at the T-number on the frame and that will tell you what particular model of speaker you have.

The 1105 cone usually comes with the 4 ridge spider support in my experience, it is more of a bass cone really.

Some T-numbers are listed here, but definitely not all:

http://www.bygonetones.com/celestion-re ... -list.html
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby Timmytwang01 on Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:07 am

Interesting. It certainly snaps on the low E string. You can hear the string wrappings. Maybe that's the bass cone thing. But the highs are beautiful, not shrill. I honestly think they've bested my EVM12L's - big call, I know - but they're somehow smoother and prettier sounding with the same kind of low end tight thump. Just checked the frames as you suggested - they are T3249
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby power lover on Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:51 am

I played a couple amps through a g1280 cab. 6550 tubes sound great through 'em. . Many early 80's rock/metal bands probably used that cab . Maybe schenkers MSG era albums. They are smooth and do not crunch anything like a greenback and are more similar to the g1265's. I didnt know the g1280 had so many variations but so did the 65w's of that era and those did vary in sound. Sounds like you got a good set !
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Re: Rola Celestion G12-80 with 1105 cones

Postby Anje on Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:28 pm

Cool thread and interesting read on those old G12-80 (and nice cool rig Dave indeed :cheers: ).
I think that was the speaker quite a few "big guys" were using in the 80's, few names I have in mind form memory: Eric Johnson, Uli Jon Roth, others?
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