Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

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Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

Postby bdy on Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:27 pm

Hi there,
I'm new here, but reading this forum for many years. Here is my last acquisition - Sound City cabinet with some Hiwatt-ish details. Any clue what year/type it is?

Here are the pics >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ni7wtsr4cvf5 ... AVsLa?dl=0

From inside it looks like SC cab
- mounting screws on front baffle
- Sound City Fane Speakers (cannot find date but they are 22watters/15ohm #12298)
- no black paint
- no back bottom port hole
- overall construction

But from outside reminds me more Hiwatt cabinets than SC
- tolex (actually it's more matt finish than Hiwatt tolex but structure is same)
- pocket handles
- white piping
- round corners (less massive for first look)

Some undefined things
- grey grill cloth
- funny furniture wheels
- little bit taller than Hiwatt box
- metal corners

both guys together (SC on left)
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It could be early Hiwatt cab from '68 when they share cab factory? Or it is some strange early Sound City custom cabinet? Thank you!

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Re: Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

Postby Highwaystar on Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:50 pm

looks like a Roost cabinet
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Re: Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

Postby sound city 69 on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:54 pm

It looks like a late Mark 3 to early Mark 4 transitional Sound City cabinet with a couple of exceptions.


Mark 3:
Smooth tolex
Silver grill cloth surrounded with gold piping
Silver pinstripe
Rear loaded with removable plywood back
Doorknocker handles
No corner protectors
Single cliff type plastic jack plate
1 1/8" wide front edges with small radius
12 back panel screws

Mark 4:
Basketweave tolex like Hiwatt
Tan and maroon grill cloth with chromed plastic surround
No pinstripe
Front loaded
Finger slip handles
Metal corner protectors
Two metal jack plates
1 1/4" wide front edges with large radius

Exceptions are the corner protectors are not the same as I've seen on Sound City cabinets.
The pinstriping is closer to the edges than any Sound City cabinets that I've seen.

Are the speakers original? The date may be on the front of the gasket.
The casters certainly are not original.
Have you pulled the baffle to see if the piping and grill cloth are original?
Are the corners original?
The only other cabinets that I have seen with original Sound City Fane speakers is Impact which was part of Dallas Arbiter in the 70's
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Re: Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

Postby bdy on Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:17 pm

sound city 69 wrote:It looks like a late Mark 3 to early Mark 4 transitional Sound City cabinet with a couple of exceptions.

Mark 3:
Smooth tolex
Silver grill cloth surrounded with gold piping
Silver pinstripe
Rear loaded with removable plywood back
Doorknocker handles
No corner protectors
Single cliff type plastic jack plate
1 1/8" wide front edges with small radius
12 back panel screws

Mark 4:
Basketweave tolex like Hiwatt
Tan and maroon grill cloth with chromed plastic surround
No pinstripe
Front loaded
Finger slip handles
Metal corner protectors
Two metal jack plates
1 1/4" wide front edges with large radius

Exceptions are the corner protectors are not the same as I've seen on Sound City cabinets.
The pinstriping is closer to the edges than any Sound City cabinets that I've seen.

Are the speakers original? The date may be on the front of the gasket.
The casters certainly are not original.
Have you pulled the baffle to see if the piping and grill cloth are original?
Are the corners original?
The only other cabinets that I have seen with original Sound City Fane speakers is Impact which was part of Dallas Arbiter in the 70's


Back from rehearsal room...

I have no info from previous owner about cabinet, but speakers with mounting (nuts/washers) looks original to me. I removed/checked speakers but no stamp/code at all. Only 1021/11 on the cones. They labeled as 22 watt Fanes numbered 12289, 15ohm. Strange thing is that my ohmmeter shows me 11.5 resistance.
Funny thing is those casters are actually made in England, but for sure they are no original. Plastic hole is same as in my '73 Hiwatt cabinet. I haven't pulled the baffle out - but washers/nuts are still sealed with yellow/white color (or what it is). So I doubt that somebody changed grill cloth ever. White piping is all over white. On cabinet is little bit narrower than on baffle. Corners looks that they have been there from beginning, but tolex work under is nicely done. I leave them off - cabinet looks much nicer to me. BTW basketwave tolex is mat here. Hiwatt tolex is more glossy. One jack input, 12 screws.

Weird thing is that grill cloth and Hiwatish pocked handles and no air vent at all. It is some kind of freak, but it sound awesome.
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Re: Sound City / early Hiwatt cab - help me to identify!

Postby bdy on Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:20 pm

Highwaystar wrote:looks like a Roost cabinet


Do you have any image of 4x12 Roost Cabinet to compare?
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