Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

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Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby AndyHighTides on Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:09 pm

A friend of my father was telling my about his '61 Strat, so I asked to see it. When he brought it out, I immediately said, "That's no '61." It had a large headstock, what I call '70's style, it also had 2 string trees. When he handed it to me, I noticed it was a hardtail with cover. Not sure what year they came out. The big thing for me was it was a micro-tilt 3 bolt neck. I thought that was a '70's thing. It did have staggered pole pieces which should put it '73 or earlier.
He was insistent that he bought it in '61, with matching amp. I had to see that, so I crawled into the closet and pulled out a silverface Deluxe Reverb. I told him it was a nice amp, and I left.
So, am I right, wrong, or just an a**hole?
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby Unit_1 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:14 pm

the sfdr came out in 1967 - the first ones had bfdr ab763 circuit as leo was working on a run away oscillation problem with the new circuit and ran out of bfdr faceplates since he was phasing them out. at least that's the story i've heard. i have a 1968 sfdr with bfdr circuit. :-)

so you're not an a-hole. well, actually, you might be, but at least not about the amp. lol.... :cheers:

but give him a break, most people are lucky to remember anything 50 years ago
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby AndyHighTides on Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:33 pm

I was quite polite about it, and offered my opinion based on what I saw. The problem is that he thinks he has a guitar he can get $20k for if he needs to, not a $3-4k '70's guitar.
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby johnnyb on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:14 pm

I could see how that could be a bit annoying. If he's a friend let him know, if he's just some random dude, forget about it. Let him have his dissillusion, there are plenty of other things to stress on.
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby Unit_1 on Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:35 pm

since it's your friend's dad and it sounds like you're interested in a purchase, you should probably tell him

here's the list of date and serial numbers so you can prove it to him:
http://www.guitarnucleus.com/fenderserial.html
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby knavel on Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:36 pm

You are not being an a-hole and the market will smack him down if and when the time comes.

I have a hardtail 59 so they were actually around in 61.
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby Camembert Electrique on Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:19 pm

Second string tree introduced in '72 or '73. Staggered pickups discontinued in late '74. Oh, and hardtails were around from day one.




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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby AndyHighTides on Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:26 pm

Thanks for the confirmation. I talked to the guy today, and he didn't mention the guitar, so neither did I. I'll just leave it alone knowing I'm right.
Maybe I am an A-hole!
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby Pacafeliz on Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:12 am

dude, you're right.
and NOT an orifice.
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby parkhead on Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:22 am

AndyHighTides wrote:A friend of my father was telling my about his '61 Strat, so I asked to see it. When he brought it out, I immediately said, "That's no '61." It had a large headstock, what I call '70's style, it also had 2 string trees. When he handed it to me, I noticed it was a hardtail with cover. Not sure what year they came out. The big thing for me was it was a micro-tilt 3 bolt neck. I thought that was a '70's thing. It did have staggered pole pieces which should put it '73 or earlier.
He was insistent that he bought it in '61, with matching amp. I had to see that, so I crawled into the closet and pulled out a silverface Deluxe Reverb. I told him it was a nice amp, and I left.
So, am I right, wrong, or just an a**hole?


just Dont be an A-hole
this kind of thing happens 4 times a week ... to me

I have come to the conclusion that most people prefer to feel warm and fuzzy and would rather not be accurate with the details

as long as its not a buy & sell propsition let it slide

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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby Dervish Riff on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:33 am

You might as well let it slide--as they say in the movies, "You can't handle the truth!"

I've found myself in the rather strange position of having to straighten out a Gibson factory rep about telling some guy with an early '70's LP that he had a '50's (those volutes are a little hard to hide).
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Re: Strat year, am I right, or just an A-hole?

Postby vez on Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:27 pm

Well he plainly lied to you when he stated he bought it in '61 so, any proof you provide will show him to be a bold liar.
If you want to buy it, this is a no win situation.
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