What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

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What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby mtm105 on Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:16 pm

My take is that it's a 12M Blackback (circa 1979ish) with EVH's minor tweaking.

Are the Blackback's considered the Bee's Knees?? How hard are they to find? And if they're hard to find, or very expensive, isn't the EVH speaker a very good thing??

Is it different, or same thing as a 12H?
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Re: What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby power lover on Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:25 am

theres a set of two on ebay right now. sweet raunchy speaker. only the 75hz lead cone. the bass cone on this speaker is harsh and spikey and for bass guitar only. the lead cone however is awesome and yes ed might have used it on VH1. but it sounds more like scorpions lovedrive and late 70's thin lizzy.
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Re: What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby mtm105 on Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:17 pm

My bad. I have EVH 5150 III 4X12.

I was just trying to get educated on the actual speaker design/concept and how it compares to genuine 12Ms.

The sound is true. After 30 years it's my first Marshallesque Cab and I never knew how players got that THUNDEROUS tone emanating from speakers. Now I know.

Is it to die for?? Maybe. The quality sound is all there.
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Re: What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby sitka_spruce on Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:20 pm

You mean this one?: http://celestion.com/product/28/g12_evh/ It's the Heritage G12M w. lead cone but not as costy, I hear.
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Re: What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby mtm105 on Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:45 pm

It's a blackback greenback. That's why it's painted black. A legendary speaker from the late '70s.

I know EVH tweaked it to his flavor. So I imagine it's not a Heritage 12M clone, but something slightly different.

Is it the "lead cone" as alluded to?

Also the speaker is an anomoly. The 4X12 Cab rates 100W. So each speaker would have to be 25W, not 20W. So, it's somewhere in the middle between a 12M & 12H (?)
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Re: What EXACTLY is a EVH 12M ?

Postby sitka_spruce on Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:46 pm

mtm105 wrote:It's a blackback greenback. That's why it's painted black. A legendary speaker from the late '70s.

I know EVH tweaked it to his flavor. So I imagine it's not a Heritage 12M clone, but something slightly different.

Is it the "lead cone" as alluded to?

Also the speaker is an anomoly. The 4X12 Cab rates 100W. So each speaker would have to be 25W, not 20W. So, it's somewhere in the middle between a 12M & 12H (?)

According to my sources the EVH and the Heritage are spot on identical and the plots featured are identical as well. Although rated 20W on the label the Heritage is indeed 25W, according to Celestion. This you understand is a marketing trick of theirs for historical accuracy.

The VCs of the M and the H also are actually identical. The sole reason the H mag Greenbacks are 5W more on the coil is the larger magnet providing increased cooling.

As far as I can tell Celestion doesn't use the bass cone with any M size speaker or smaller at present.
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