Unit_1 wrote:i had a friend die of cirrhosis!

RC_Matthias wrote:First time I hear Joe Walsh

AC50 wrote:It should be "night and day"! ZZ Tops 4th album was released in 1975. Personally, I'm glad they moved forward and expanded.

rocco wrote:

Bleuz me wrote:Let's try this again. I don't know anyone who likes a drummer over playing.

Geddy Lee, Alex Liefson, and all their fans seem to love it!

PeterS wrote: Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.

AC50 wrote:

PeterS wrote: Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.

Probably depends on what you'd want to use it for. "Fuzz" isn't really a sound we hear a lot of today. My home-made Vox Tonebender sounds perfect for playing '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction', or maybe 'Psychotic Reaction', a lot like the Maestro Fuzz. The Axis Fuzz sounds thicker and richer, less like "wax paper and comb". Good maybe for a couple of early Hendrix tunes. I probably need to think a little more creatively.

AC50 wrote:Now I want to dig mine out and play with them!

vez wrote:A Ge fuzztone is something that widely varies with different rigs. Tone is highly dependent on the guitar and the amp.

Mayhawk wrote:Wasn't he 'associated' with Stu, Amanda, Lee Fenton, etc?

Yeah, I miss Stinky as well. Apparently he ruffled the wrong feathers/pushed the envelope too far here.

Unit_1 wrote:i think Vivian may in fact, be an alias

madjackhatter wrote:Treble bleeds may keep the highs but the way the volume rolls off is not my thing. I personally like a smooth and predictable loss of the edge when I roll off the volume. Bleeds seem to keep a lot of highs until a point where the drop off is pretty dramatic. I don't care for them personally but try for yourself. If it doesn't do anything for you, snip it out....once again, only an opinion.

Papa Dog wrote:
Kent, I think that you missed my point.

rainbow wrote:Thanks a lot LD50,of course pics. are problem, but i hope soon there be some...,one thing- No 1 amp is all mix of Iskra res. and others(dark ones) are 470K, 10K-1W,8,2K 1W.so no Piher
Both amps have filter cap on board..,here are a pair of pics,

Strat59 wrote:Man a couple of real Gems there. When you find "That" Tone you know it. The modern replicas (Prod & Boutique) don't have the same Qlty of tone
to me that the old Marshalls Plexi / Early Metal panels have. Same with modern speakers vs Pulsonic coned Celestions.

Once you've owned some originals nothing else feels the same. Strange thing I notice is if I stand in front of cranked Modern Marshalls my ears will ring.
But with old Plexi and Metal Face my ears dont ? Don't ask me why.........

central_scrutinizer wrote:Presence = 26.9K

Miracle Man wrote:

central_scrutinizer wrote:Presence = 26.9K

I thought the old Marshalls had 5k presence pots. Are you sure it's stock?

bigtomrodney wrote:Whoah. Excepting the treble pot they're pretty close to spec. How does she sound?

central_scrutinizer wrote:Well here are the measurements for my 1966 JTM45/100: http://www.csms.nl

Volume I = 1.085M
Volume II = 1.082M
Treble = 292K
Mid = 26.9K
Bass = 0.962M
Presence = 5.13K

Benny Lamb wrote:NO.

amoun wrote:is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?

Swingville wrote:

Naked Clarke wrote:I have not found listed a single Bassman Amp with a leather handle prior to early 1959.

Hi, Naked Clarke. Do you mean "without" a leather handle? Or, did you meant that all pre-1958 Bassmans had rubber handles? I believe the OP's picture of the 1958 Bassman has a rubber dogbone handle (I could be wrong) same as my 1960 Super Amp's rubber dogbone handle.

ziess wrote:Did you just ground one side of the pot or did you use a resistor?

Tommy.

ziess wrote:So it's just operating as a variable resistor? The only problem would be when you've got the pot all the way down and all the current going through a small portion of the carbon track, more than it might be rated for (the max current of a pot is over it's whole track). Realistically in a bias circuit I imagine you'll be fine. I was just interested in how you'd implemented it. Are you finding enough play in the control there?
I prefer to do it the other way so, even with the pot all the way up, ie. letting all the voltage through, there's still a resistance to ground through the resistor on the lug to ground.

Tommy.

sthebluesman wrote:

Inventour wrote:I can't see by the pics posted, is the OT ground wire soldered to the frame of the OT?

It's not the best method, what I do is either clip the wire at the spot-solder to leave the
solder-spot original, then if the wire is long enough I run the wire through the hole and
solder it directly to the Speaker Jack Terminal. This gives you the best possible
speaker ground. Usually there is enough wire to run the Ground wire direct to the
Speaker Jack Ground Terminal. And sometimes I need to add a small piece of wire
to make it complete. Almost in every case there is plenty of wire to reach the jack
without having to add wire.

This is a big problem with amps that still have the 2 prong cord and un-grounded chassis.
Many times a hum resulted in people not using the polarity/ground switch, and or reversing
the 2 prong plug in the wall to help stop a hum. Don't forget about the death cap removal
when grounding the old amps.

I still need to ground my newly acquired pro amp to a 3-prong cord.
My favorite cord for the old tweeds is the 10' foot long 14 Ga. Panamax extension cord
that is used for a ground suppressor unit. It's a very high quality cable that coils easily
and lays flat when you un-coil and use it.

you can find them for a good price if you shop around, like 10.00. The color is the same as the old PEC cords.

Many guys us them for tweeds,

I just had a thought that I could piggy back a ground wire from the OT chassis wire to the speaker jack. That way, I don't have to change anything. What type of wire would you suggest? That braided bare wire looks good but I don't know where to get that.

Strat59 wrote: WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a
shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.

Strat59 wrote:+1 Am bidding on it now. Don't need it but it's such a little cutie and Pristine. End price might be too much for what it is but ............

Never been partial to small speakers though (6" / 8" ) Even though many swear by the Champ. Always sounded too small and boxy . Mic'd up to record
might be a another matter. But it's a pretty example.

Not so sure the speaker is original though. Looks a later type ?

Asked the seller for a pic showing the Circuit Board (Top Back Panel Off) ..... no reply so far.

WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a
shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.

jeffstivers wrote:I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.

jeffstivers wrote:I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.

mylescdavis wrote:Swingville, take a look at Fender amps in the 70's - still "hand wired" but not very well. If you're saying "some of each kind are good" (I kind of got lost in the middle of your last post), what's your point? Bigtom's summary of the real issue here (surface mount stuff) was spot on, whether it's about Marshalls or Fenders. There's a whole lot of mythology floating around the Internet - don't believe everything you read and above all, don't pass it along as if it were gospel.

Swingville wrote:I am open to be incorrect, but can you imagine the costs if modern amps were PTP wired & soldered?

bigtomrodney wrote:I didn't mean to drag this to Marshall as much to reach into my experience as I deal more with Marshall's. Sure you can look at the most productionised amp that is all SMC except for some pot and transformer wiring but that could not in any intellectually honest way be considered handwired. Once you include even a partially SMC built amp all bets are off on tinkering and often for repair work within reason. My point and perhaps I should have been more clear is that in real terms you should not separate an amp built from hand populated etched boards from a turret or tag board. The Marshall example paints a fair picture though it is not a Fender...maybe someone else can provide a similar Fender example. It would be dishonest and arbitrary to lump a hand-etched board that has been hand populated with a motherboard printed in a large industrial press whether from a manufacturing or end product point if view. The fact is you could make an etched board in your home with just a marker and a bath of juristic acid. A good example to lead by would be to compare a 1967 Clyde wah with a few hand populated and solder components which can easily be repaired or modded to a recent construction Vox V847A or Cry Baby GCB95 which are almost entirely printed with miniscule SMC components and host their jacks on the board itself. One is traditional,small production, flexible and easily maintained. The other barely sees a human hand and if it breaks you throw it in the bin. So as I said, the line in the sand for these things goes between SMC and non SMC. Your Hot Rod Deluxe will play great until it breaks..then you decide whether to chance a fix, order an entirely new board or gut it and go for a tagboard.

mylescdavis wrote: There's no controversy here, so why make one up?

Swingville wrote:Hi, WOT.

Great looking amp collection.
Do you ever hook up four in four corners
for a bit of "surround sound"

What is the amp on top of the Tweed Bassman?
Swingville

Baron Von Machinenmann wrote:Damn skippy amp there Dawg, any idea which (brand) pt you'll end up with? Is there a usable schematic inside of the rear panel?