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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: When friends hit the skids :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T12:24:00+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:24:00+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101622&amp;p=989396#p989396</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
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        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Unit_1 wrote:</cite>i had a friend die of cirrhosis!</div></blockquote><br />I've heard that may be the most painful way to go. The Liver is shutting down but they can't give enough pain medication cause that will just cause the Liver to shut down sooner.<br />I say give 'em a couple Dilaudids and see what happens.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Unit_1 wrote:</cite>i had a friend die of cirrhosis!</div></blockquote><br />I've heard that may be the most painful way to go. The Liver is shutting down but they can't give enough pain medication cause that will just cause the Liver to shut down sooner.<br />I say give 'em a couple Dilaudids and see what happens.]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Joe Walsh :: Analog Man :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T12:33:42+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:33:42+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101611&amp;p=989398#p989398</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
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        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>RC_Matthias wrote:</cite>First time I hear Joe Walsh</div></blockquote><br />You must hear the first James Gang album. One of those rare albums where every song is a gem and you can't wait to hear the next one.<br /><br />I think his ability to sing the third harmony... some refer to it as the ghost harmony helped him get the Eagles gig. It's sort of an Everly Brothers thing.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>RC_Matthias wrote:</cite>First time I hear Joe Walsh</div></blockquote><br />You must hear the first James Gang album. One of those rare albums where every song is a gem and you can't wait to hear the next one.<br /><br />I think his ability to sing the third harmony... some refer to it as the ghost harmony helped him get the Eagles gig. It's sort of an Everly Brothers thing.]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: ZZ Top's New Single :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T13:28:37+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:28:37+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101576&amp;p=989407#p989407</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
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        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite>It<span style="font-style: italic"> should </span>be &quot;night and day&quot;! ZZ Tops 4th album was released in 1975. Personally, <span style="font-style: italic">I'm glad</span> they moved forward and expanded.</div></blockquote><br />I think you nailed it. I saw them right after Tejas came out. And they sucked.<br />Each had two Marshall full stacks. Billy and Dusty stayed pretty far apart. I was expecting some great guitar work and got nuthin'. Billy and Dusty did all these vocal routines as they hit the familiar riffs but the musicianship sorely lacked.<br /><br />Bad night... bad day... maybe not the right venue ?? Maybe trying out some new stuff. It was Columbus, Ohio after all.<br />Only Blackmore was worse when I saw Purple w/ Hughes and Cloverdale. Take away the mike stand and his whammy bar and I'm not sure he would have been able to play anything.<br /><br />Again... when I saw ZZ Top they were wearing blue jeans and didn't really have an act for a 4000 seat auditorium.<br />I watch more current videos on youtube and Billy's now playin' the stuff... the way I expected to hear it way back then.<br /><br />I think Billy had to figure a way to get the stage show to reflect their hard rock roots but present it in a more refined way. And be more visually entertaining (except for Frank)<br />I think they succeeded.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite>It<span style="font-style: italic"> should </span>be &quot;night and day&quot;! ZZ Tops 4th album was released in 1975. Personally, <span style="font-style: italic">I'm glad</span> they moved forward and expanded.</div></blockquote><br />I think you nailed it. I saw them right after Tejas came out. And they sucked.<br />Each had two Marshall full stacks. Billy and Dusty stayed pretty far apart. I was expecting some great guitar work and got nuthin'. Billy and Dusty did all these vocal routines as they hit the familiar riffs but the musicianship sorely lacked.<br /><br />Bad night... bad day... maybe not the right venue ?? Maybe trying out some new stuff. It was Columbus, Ohio after all.<br />Only Blackmore was worse when I saw Purple w/ Hughes and Cloverdale. Take away the mike stand and his whammy bar and I'm not sure he would have been able to play anything.<br /><br />Again... when I saw ZZ Top they were wearing blue jeans and didn't really have an act for a 4000 seat auditorium.<br />I watch more current videos on youtube and Billy's now playin' the stuff... the way I expected to hear it way back then.<br /><br />I think Billy had to figure a way to get the stage show to reflect their hard rock roots but present it in a more refined way. And be more visually entertaining (except for Frank)<br />I think they succeeded.]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: ZZ Top's New Single :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T13:42:23+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:42:23+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101576&amp;p=989408#p989408</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>rocco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Bleuz me wrote:</cite>Let's try this again. I don't know anyone who likes a drummer over playing.</div></blockquote><br />Geddy Lee, Alex Liefson, and all their fans seem to love it!</div></blockquote><br />Neil doesn't count. He wasn't the original drummer. Something Neil and Ginger have in common is bicycles. <br />Ginger was a competitive cyclist prior to drumming and I don't know if Neil competes... but I guess he rides great distances. Across Africa or something like that.<br />Alex takes Golf real serious and Geddy must just stand in front of the mirror a lot.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>rocco wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Bleuz me wrote:</cite>Let's try this again. I don't know anyone who likes a drummer over playing.</div></blockquote><br />Geddy Lee, Alex Liefson, and all their fans seem to love it!</div></blockquote><br />Neil doesn't count. He wasn't the original drummer. Something Neil and Ginger have in common is bicycles. <br />Ginger was a competitive cyclist prior to drumming and I don't know if Neil competes... but I guess he rides great distances. Across Africa or something like that.<br />Alex takes Golf real serious and Geddy must just stand in front of the mirror a lot.]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: ZZ Top's New Single :: Reply by AC50</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T13:50:46+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:50:46+00:00</updated>
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        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
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        <content type="html"><![CDATA[With Dusty and Billy out front, who has time to watch Frank?  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /> <br /><br />(seriously though, I think Frank's just right for the band. Perfect for the role, in fact.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> )]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[With Dusty and Billy out front, who has time to watch Frank?  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /> <br /><br />(seriously though, I think Frank's just right for the band. Perfect for the role, in fact.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> )]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Jeff Healey - Roadhouse :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T14:16:50+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:16:50+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101628&amp;p=989413#p989413</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Humans can do some pretty special things sometimes.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Humans can do some pretty special things sometimes.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by AC50</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T12:51:46+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:51:46+00:00</updated>
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        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
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        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>PeterS wrote:</cite> Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Probably depends on what you'd want to use it for. &quot;Fuzz&quot; isn't really a sound we hear a lot of today. My home-made Vox Tonebender sounds perfect for playing '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction', or maybe 'Psychotic Reaction', a lot like the Maestro Fuzz. The Axis Fuzz sounds thicker and richer, less like &quot;wax paper and comb&quot;.  Good maybe for a couple of early Hendrix tunes.  I probably need to think a little more creatively.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>PeterS wrote:</cite> Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Probably depends on what you'd want to use it for. &quot;Fuzz&quot; isn't really a sound we hear a lot of today. My home-made Vox Tonebender sounds perfect for playing '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction', or maybe 'Psychotic Reaction', a lot like the Maestro Fuzz. The Axis Fuzz sounds thicker and richer, less like &quot;wax paper and comb&quot;.  Good maybe for a couple of early Hendrix tunes.  I probably need to think a little more creatively.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" />]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by vez</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989419#p989419"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:22:35+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:22:35+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989419#p989419</id>
        <author>
            <name>vez</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>PeterS wrote:</cite> Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Probably depends on what you'd want to use it for. &quot;Fuzz&quot; isn't really a sound we hear a lot of today. My home-made Vox Tonebender sounds perfect for playing '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction', or maybe 'Psychotic Reaction', a lot like the Maestro Fuzz. The Axis Fuzz sounds thicker and richer, less like &quot;wax paper and comb&quot;.  Good maybe for a couple of early Hendrix tunes.  I probably need to think a little more creatively.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /></div></blockquote><br />A Ge fuzztone is something that widely varies with different rigs. The same box can sound like Hendrix's &quot;Red House' and then on a different rig sound like a bumble bee buzz like AC50 described as the &quot;wax paper and comb&quot; sound. Tone is highly dependent on the guitar and the amp.<br />I have seen really wild sounds out of cheap solid state amps with fuzztones. Like this:<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgbyu1whDw" class="postlink">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgbyu1whDw</a><br />Also, matching transistors for a three transistor tonebender is a little harder than a fuzz which is a two transistor unit.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>PeterS wrote:</cite> Built a fuzz using a couple of good ones, didn't like the sound that much, but I don't know whether it was Not Good, or maybe it was great but not my cuppa tea.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />Probably depends on what you'd want to use it for. &quot;Fuzz&quot; isn't really a sound we hear a lot of today. My home-made Vox Tonebender sounds perfect for playing '(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction', or maybe 'Psychotic Reaction', a lot like the Maestro Fuzz. The Axis Fuzz sounds thicker and richer, less like &quot;wax paper and comb&quot;.  Good maybe for a couple of early Hendrix tunes.  I probably need to think a little more creatively.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /></div></blockquote><br />A Ge fuzztone is something that widely varies with different rigs. The same box can sound like Hendrix's &quot;Red House' and then on a different rig sound like a bumble bee buzz like AC50 described as the &quot;wax paper and comb&quot; sound. Tone is highly dependent on the guitar and the amp.<br />I have seen really wild sounds out of cheap solid state amps with fuzztones. Like this:<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgbyu1whDw" class="postlink">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykgbyu1whDw</a><br />Also, matching transistors for a three transistor tonebender is a little harder than a fuzz which is a two transistor unit.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by AC50</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T16:23:30+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T16:23:30+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989427#p989427</id>
        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Now I want to dig mine out and play with them!  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /> <br />I think they all seem to work better (for me) with a clean initial amp tone.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Also, matching transistors for a three transistor tonebender is a little harder than a fuzz which is a two transistor unit. </div></blockquote>Oh maaan, after what I went through with two . . . . and if I turn up missing, just check the local mental hospital!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Now I want to dig mine out and play with them!  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /> <br />I think they all seem to work better (for me) with a clean initial amp tone.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Also, matching transistors for a three transistor tonebender is a little harder than a fuzz which is a two transistor unit. </div></blockquote>Oh maaan, after what I went through with two . . . . and if I turn up missing, just check the local mental hospital!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by vez</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T18:29:41+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T18:29:41+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989444#p989444</id>
        <author>
            <name>vez</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite>Now I want to dig mine out and play with them! </div></blockquote><br />Right on AC, that's an excellent idea! <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/jam.gif" alt=":jam:" title="Jam" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>AC50 wrote:</cite>Now I want to dig mine out and play with them! </div></blockquote><br />Right on AC, that's an excellent idea! <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/jam.gif" alt=":jam:" title="Jam" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by Mr. Arkadin</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T20:53:33+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T20:53:33+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989454#p989454</id>
        <author>
            <name>Mr. Arkadin</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>vez wrote:</cite>A Ge fuzztone is something that widely varies with different rigs. Tone is highly dependent on the guitar and the amp.</div></blockquote><br /><br />YES.<br /><br />As someone who has a lot of old fuzz pedals, I can tell you that you almost have to match the unit with the guitar and amp.  Unlike a Tube Screamer, Rat, Tube Driver, or other popular pedals, fuzzes are finicky beasts because of their highly individualistic sounds and variable tolerences (especially in the older ones).]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>vez wrote:</cite>A Ge fuzztone is something that widely varies with different rigs. Tone is highly dependent on the guitar and the amp.</div></blockquote><br /><br />YES.<br /><br />As someone who has a lot of old fuzz pedals, I can tell you that you almost have to match the unit with the guitar and amp.  Unlike a Tube Screamer, Rat, Tube Driver, or other popular pedals, fuzzes are finicky beasts because of their highly individualistic sounds and variable tolerences (especially in the older ones).]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Germanium transistors? :: Reply by PeterS</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989462#p989462"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T22:31:33+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T22:31:33+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101656&amp;p=989462#p989462</id>
        <author>
            <name>PeterS</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[This is very informative.  What I did, I bought some turret strip about an inch wide (surprisingly you can buy it from regular electronics places like Newark) and built the fuzz on that, with the intent that I could easily build a few more to sell if it worked out well.   Then I realized I had no idea how to tweak it or whether it was good or bad.  When I build a guitar amp I feel like I have a pretty good ear for what sounds good and what doesn't and how to get there.  But for fuzz I just don't have the aesthetic.  Maybe I need to train my ear by listening to some suitable records.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[This is very informative.  What I did, I bought some turret strip about an inch wide (surprisingly you can buy it from regular electronics places like Newark) and built the fuzz on that, with the intent that I could easily build a few more to sell if it worked out well.   Then I realized I had no idea how to tweak it or whether it was good or bad.  When I build a guitar amp I feel like I have a pretty good ear for what sounds good and what doesn't and how to get there.  But for fuzz I just don't have the aesthetic.  Maybe I need to train my ear by listening to some suitable records.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Free reunion :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T14:21:25+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:21:25+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101608&amp;p=989414#p989414</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[I was on I 70 west coming into Wheeling WVa and there was a large sign advertising Paul Rogers at some outdoor venue. The Meadows or something like that. Looks like he has his summer booked.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[I was on I 70 west coming into Wheeling WVa and there was a large sign advertising Paul Rogers at some outdoor venue. The Meadows or something like that. Looks like he has his summer booked.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Free reunion :: Reply by Mr. dB</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T23:21:51+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T23:21:51+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101608&amp;p=989465#p989465</id>
        <author>
            <name>Mr. dB</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Let sleeping dogs lie.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Let sleeping dogs lie.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: It's certainly not Group Therapy... but it's group somet :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989412#p989412"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T14:03:26+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:03:26+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989412#p989412</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[It's a family affairrrrrrrrrrrair.... It a family affairrrrrrrrrrrrrair <br /><br />This is where we need Stinkfoot aka Urban Spaceman aka.... whatever. He could lend some special insight into the practice.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[It's a family affairrrrrrrrrrrair.... It a family affairrrrrrrrrrrrrair <br /><br />This is where we need Stinkfoot aka Urban Spaceman aka.... whatever. He could lend some special insight into the practice.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: It's certainly not Group Therapy... but it's group somet :: Reply by Mayhawk</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989416#p989416"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T14:40:45+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:40:45+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989416#p989416</id>
        <author>
            <name>Mayhawk</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Wasn't he 'associated' with Stu, Amanda, Lee Fenton, etc?  <br /><br />Yeah, I miss Stinky as well.  Apparently he ruffled the wrong feathers/pushed the envelope too far here.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Wasn't he 'associated' with Stu, Amanda, Lee Fenton, etc?  <br /><br />Yeah, I miss Stinky as well.  Apparently he ruffled the wrong feathers/pushed the envelope too far here.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: It's certainly not Group Therapy... but it's group somet :: Reply by Unit_1</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989428#p989428"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:03:21+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:03:21+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989428#p989428</id>
        <author>
            <name>Unit_1</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Mayhawk wrote:</cite>Wasn't he 'associated' with Stu, Amanda, Lee Fenton, etc?  <br /><br />Yeah, I miss Stinky as well.  Apparently he ruffled the wrong feathers/pushed the envelope too far here.</div></blockquote><br /><br />i think Vivian may in fact, be an alias]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Mayhawk wrote:</cite>Wasn't he 'associated' with Stu, Amanda, Lee Fenton, etc?  <br /><br />Yeah, I miss Stinky as well.  Apparently he ruffled the wrong feathers/pushed the envelope too far here.</div></blockquote><br /><br />i think Vivian may in fact, be an alias]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: It's certainly not Group Therapy... but it's group somet :: Reply by Bleuz me</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989453#p989453"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T20:17:11+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T20:17:11+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989453#p989453</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Unit_1 wrote:</cite>i think Vivian may in fact, be an alias</div></blockquote><br />That avatar is rather haunting. Possibly one of Stinkfoot's 16 personalities.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Unit_1 wrote:</cite>i think Vivian may in fact, be an alias</div></blockquote><br />That avatar is rather haunting. Possibly one of Stinkfoot's 16 personalities.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: It's certainly not Group Therapy... but it's group somet :: Reply by Strat59</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989467#p989467"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T02:04:32+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T02:04:32+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101629&amp;p=989467#p989467</id>
        <author>
            <name>Strat59</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Ah , &quot;The Young Ones&quot;  Vivian great character. <br /><br />  Was looking back through my Posting History yesterday and was struck by the number of - M.I.A.  Members.  PeeCee  was one who always contributed<br />  regularly on the Marshall page. Was last known living / working in Japan. I hope that shocking Tsunami a year or so back was far from where he was<br />  living ?<br /><br />  Miss Stinky's British Wit &amp; Humor.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Ah , &quot;The Young Ones&quot;  Vivian great character. <br /><br />  Was looking back through my Posting History yesterday and was struck by the number of - M.I.A.  Members.  PeeCee  was one who always contributed<br />  regularly on the Marshall page. Was last known living / working in Japan. I hope that shocking Tsunami a year or so back was far from where he was<br />  living ?<br /><br />  Miss Stinky's British Wit &amp; Humor.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Stratocaster Pots :: Reply by AC50</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101605&amp;p=989470#p989470"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T02:48:52+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T02:48:52+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101605&amp;p=989470#p989470</id>
        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>madjackhatter wrote:</cite>Treble bleeds may keep the highs but the way the volume rolls off is not my thing. I personally like a smooth and predictable loss of the edge when I roll off the volume. Bleeds seem to keep a lot of highs until a point where the drop off is pretty dramatic. I don't care for them personally but try for yourself. If it doesn't do anything for you, snip it out....once again, only an opinion.</div></blockquote><br /><br />+1]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>madjackhatter wrote:</cite>Treble bleeds may keep the highs but the way the volume rolls off is not my thing. I personally like a smooth and predictable loss of the edge when I roll off the volume. Bleeds seem to keep a lot of highs until a point where the drop off is pretty dramatic. I don't care for them personally but try for yourself. If it doesn't do anything for you, snip it out....once again, only an opinion.</div></blockquote><br /><br />+1]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by AC50</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101609&amp;p=989402#p989402"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T12:54:43+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:54:43+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101609&amp;p=989402#p989402</id>
        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Papa Dog wrote:</cite><br />Kent, I think that you missed my point.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />No actually, because I missed <span style="font-style: italic">your </span>post entirely! (skipped right over it somehow) <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Papa Dog wrote:</cite><br />Kent, I think that you missed my point.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />No actually, because I missed <span style="font-style: italic">your </span>post entirely! (skipped right over it somehow) <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Off-Topic Lounge :: Re: Grab and go amp :: Reply by scottywompas</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101609&amp;p=989476#p989476"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T05:19:25+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T05:19:25+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=16&amp;t=101609&amp;p=989476#p989476</id>
        <author>
            <name>scottywompas</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Off-Topic Lounge" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Blues Jr. and a clean boost.  <br /><br />I actually use this rig a lot when I don't feel like hauling my heavy gear.  Dime the gain, and use the volume on the guitar to dial in different tones. Hit it with a clean boost for solos and I'm golden. <br /><br />Scott]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Blues Jr. and a clean boost.  <br /><br />I actually use this rig a lot when I don't feel like hauling my heavy gear.  Dime the gain, and use the volume on the guitar to dial in different tones. Hit it with a clean boost for solos and I'm golden. <br /><br />Scott]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>eBay Watch :: Re: Cool 1968 PA fair price, but hurry up :: Reply by Bunnest</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=53&amp;t=101515&amp;p=989430#p989430"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:06:28+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:06:28+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=53&amp;t=101515&amp;p=989430#p989430</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bunnest</name>
        </author>
        <category term="eBay Watch" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/78709086@N03/?saved=1">http://www.flickr.com/photos/78709086@N03/?saved=1</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Here is my '68 Super PA.  new caps and such, but pretty much original...]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/78709086@N03/?saved=1">http://www.flickr.com/photos/78709086@N03/?saved=1</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Here is my '68 Super PA.  new caps and such, but pretty much original...]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Classified Ads for Used Gear :: Re: FS: BF 1967 Fender Bassman head - $750 shipped PICS! :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=54&amp;t=101626&amp;p=989397#p989397"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T12:33:35+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:33:35+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=54&amp;t=101626&amp;p=989397#p989397</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Classified Ads for Used Gear" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi! Very nice looking amp. AB165, I suppose.<br /><br />I'm looking around for an amp head.<br />Debating on Presence, Reverb, watts/ohms,<br />ability to work well with pedals.<br />Is it setup for 110v or 220/230v?<br /><br />Are you shipping from Mexico?<br />Any shipping issues to be aware of?<br /><br />I will be in touch when I go to the next step.<br />Swingville]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi! Very nice looking amp. AB165, I suppose.<br /><br />I'm looking around for an amp head.<br />Debating on Presence, Reverb, watts/ohms,<br />ability to work well with pedals.<br />Is it setup for 110v or 220/230v?<br /><br />Are you shipping from Mexico?<br />Any shipping issues to be aware of?<br /><br />I will be in touch when I go to the next step.<br />Swingville]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Classified Ads for Used Gear :: Re: FS: BF 1967 Fender Bassman head - $750 shipped PICS! :: Reply by Pacafeliz</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=54&amp;t=101626&amp;p=989449#p989449"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:20:32+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:20:32+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=54&amp;t=101626&amp;p=989449#p989449</id>
        <author>
            <name>Pacafeliz</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Classified Ads for Used Gear" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[hey there, thanks for your interest!<br /><br />yes the amp works 100% and sounds great alone and/or with pedals... never had any probs with it!<br />sadly, it is only 110-117v, it is not an export model with the voltage selector.<br /><br />i've dealt with LOTS of people here and on the offsetguitars and shortscale forums (sic) over the years with no prob.<br /><br />i usually ship pro-packed with MexPost EMS, that has (a more or less accurate) tracking number and usually takes 5-12 days worldwide. never had anything broken on its way *knock on wood*<br /><br />and &quot;since i know some people&quot; at the post office, none of my buyers ever has had to pay import taxes or so!  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><br />i have a 100% clean ebay account, username LARVALA and confirmed paypal, etc.<br /><br />lemme know ok? <br /><br />Pat.<br /><br />ps: where are you located?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[hey there, thanks for your interest!<br /><br />yes the amp works 100% and sounds great alone and/or with pedals... never had any probs with it!<br />sadly, it is only 110-117v, it is not an export model with the voltage selector.<br /><br />i've dealt with LOTS of people here and on the offsetguitars and shortscale forums (sic) over the years with no prob.<br /><br />i usually ship pro-packed with MexPost EMS, that has (a more or less accurate) tracking number and usually takes 5-12 days worldwide. never had anything broken on its way *knock on wood*<br /><br />and &quot;since i know some people&quot; at the post office, none of my buyers ever has had to pay import taxes or so!  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><br />i have a 100% clean ebay account, username LARVALA and confirmed paypal, etc.<br /><br />lemme know ok? <br /><br />Pat.<br /><br />ps: where are you located?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: '70 or '72 super lead Which one and why?! :: Reply by michelebis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=100853&amp;p=989394#p989394"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T11:04:55+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T11:04:55+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=100853&amp;p=989394#p989394</id>
        <author>
            <name>michelebis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks a lot LD50.. you are precious <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks a lot LD50.. you are precious <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: a  pair of 68 50w  Marshall amps dilemma :: Reply by rainbow</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989422#p989422"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:36:39+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:36:39+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989422#p989422</id>
        <author>
            <name>rainbow</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Theese 2 pics. are no 2 amp, ...unknown resistor in the place where  820R should be,and cap also unknown . at least for me..logo is  from the same amp,..\i have some difficulties with uploading photos,sorry for the quality....i expect one of this two, will be some time soon om sale, but you never know ... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Theese 2 pics. are no 2 amp, ...unknown resistor in the place where  820R should be,and cap also unknown . at least for me..logo is  from the same amp,..\i have some difficulties with uploading photos,sorry for the quality....i expect one of this two, will be some time soon om sale, but you never know ... <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: a  pair of 68 50w  Marshall amps dilemma :: Reply by LD50</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989441#p989441"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:58:30+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:58:30+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989441#p989441</id>
        <author>
            <name>LD50</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>rainbow wrote:</cite>Thanks a lot LD50,of course pics. are problem, but i hope soon there be some...,one thing- No 1 amp is all mix of Iskra res. and others(dark ones) are 470K, 10K-1W,8,2K 1W.so no Piher<br />Both amps have filter cap on board..,here are a pair of pics,</div></blockquote><br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>rainbow wrote:</cite>Theese 2 pics. are no 2 amp, ...unknown resistor in the place where 820R should be,and cap also unknown . at least for me..logo is from the same amp,..\i have some difficulties with uploading photos,sorry for the quality....i expect one of this two, will be some time soon om sale, but you never know ... </div></blockquote><br /><br />Can't see any pics!<br /><br />A [url]picture location[/url rather than [img]picture%20link[/img] will work instead <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>rainbow wrote:</cite>Thanks a lot LD50,of course pics. are problem, but i hope soon there be some...,one thing- No 1 amp is all mix of Iskra res. and others(dark ones) are 470K, 10K-1W,8,2K 1W.so no Piher<br />Both amps have filter cap on board..,here are a pair of pics,</div></blockquote><br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>rainbow wrote:</cite>Theese 2 pics. are no 2 amp, ...unknown resistor in the place where 820R should be,and cap also unknown . at least for me..logo is from the same amp,..\i have some difficulties with uploading photos,sorry for the quality....i expect one of this two, will be some time soon om sale, but you never know ... </div></blockquote><br /><br />Can't see any pics!<br /><br />A [url]picture location[/url rather than [img]picture%20link[/img] will work instead <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: a  pair of 68 50w  Marshall amps dilemma :: Reply by rainbow</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989451#p989451"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:55:58+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:55:58+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101600&amp;p=989451#p989451</id>
        <author>
            <name>rainbow</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Still stuck ..but i came across this  <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=RhS-CBUIxcw..">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -CBUIxcw..</a><!-- m -->. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" /> <br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=5AolyjVBEb8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AolyjVBEb8</a><!-- m --> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/jam.gif" alt=":jam:" title="Jam" /> ,,,i am in a better mood now! <br />Pics will be   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />  in a day or two]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Still stuck ..but i came across this  <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=RhS-CBUIxcw..">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... -CBUIxcw..</a><!-- m -->. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" /> <br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=5AolyjVBEb8">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... AolyjVBEb8</a><!-- m --> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/jam.gif" alt=":jam:" title="Jam" /> ,,,i am in a better mood now! <br />Pics will be   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />  in a day or two]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: missing my super bass amps :: Reply by fuzznut66</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101633&amp;p=989457#p989457"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:48:08+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:48:08+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101633&amp;p=989457#p989457</id>
        <author>
            <name>fuzznut66</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>Man a couple of real Gems there.  When you find &quot;That&quot; Tone you know it. The modern replicas (Prod &amp; Boutique) don't have the same Qlty of tone<br />  to me that the old Marshalls Plexi / Early Metal panels have. Same with modern speakers vs Pulsonic coned Celestions.<br /><br />  Once you've owned some originals nothing else feels the same. Strange thing I notice is if I stand in front of cranked Modern Marshalls my ears will ring.<br />  But with old Plexi and Metal Face my ears dont ?  Don't ask me why.........</div></blockquote><br /><br />Thanks man I appreciate your input!<br /><br />So true about the ear ringing thing with Modern vs. Vintage amps (or even vintage style ones). <br />Really no need for plugs if only the volume and venue is suitable.<br /><br />Hehe and don't get me started on wah pedals. Still a bit mad about the late 60's vox I also sold.<br /><br />Anyway I'm so close at getting a modded '70 super bass at a decent price (pic above). Planning to get it in original shape and just go with it.<br />Only concern is the speakers. Scumback paper voice coil ones seems tempting!<br /><br />Cheers!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>Man a couple of real Gems there.  When you find &quot;That&quot; Tone you know it. The modern replicas (Prod &amp; Boutique) don't have the same Qlty of tone<br />  to me that the old Marshalls Plexi / Early Metal panels have. Same with modern speakers vs Pulsonic coned Celestions.<br /><br />  Once you've owned some originals nothing else feels the same. Strange thing I notice is if I stand in front of cranked Modern Marshalls my ears will ring.<br />  But with old Plexi and Metal Face my ears dont ?  Don't ask me why.........</div></blockquote><br /><br />Thanks man I appreciate your input!<br /><br />So true about the ear ringing thing with Modern vs. Vintage amps (or even vintage style ones). <br />Really no need for plugs if only the volume and venue is suitable.<br /><br />Hehe and don't get me started on wah pedals. Still a bit mad about the late 60's vox I also sold.<br /><br />Anyway I'm so close at getting a modded '70 super bass at a decent price (pic above). Planning to get it in original shape and just go with it.<br />Only concern is the speakers. Scumback paper voice coil ones seems tempting!<br /><br />Cheers!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Help me find a cab :: Author Bleuz me</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101668&amp;p=989420#p989420"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:26:17+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:26:17+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101668&amp;p=989420#p989420</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[I've been looking for a Marshall Bass Cab DBS 7412. Metal grill big Logo. The cab is more rectangular than square. The 12's sit kinda wooperjawed  in the cab. Some have a port in opposite corners. Some have no ports. I'm not picky.<br />Tried classifieds but no luck after 3 bumps. There's one for sale ebay Germany but the guy thinks I'm a scammer or something. I Googled Craigslist with the item... and if one is available... they'll tell you where it is. Believe me... I've been searching for some time and it appears I did miss a couple.<br />It's funny. I used an online translator. I decided to run the German translation back to English and it made no sense at all. After about 6 re-writes... I thought he should understand me pretty well. Evidently he thought I was struggling with the language. You know how we react when we get something in tortured English.<br />Anyway.... it looked like it sold once and then it get's relisted two more times with no bites. He's asking more than I want to pay.... but it doesn't seem like I'm gonna' have any luck there anyway.<br />Seems most went to Europe. I'll go $350 USD for the cab since I'll get killed on shipping charges.<br />If someone in the US or Canada has one... I'm in the USA.<br />Keep yer eyes opened and help a brother out. Thanks, Dave]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[I've been looking for a Marshall Bass Cab DBS 7412. Metal grill big Logo. The cab is more rectangular than square. The 12's sit kinda wooperjawed  in the cab. Some have a port in opposite corners. Some have no ports. I'm not picky.<br />Tried classifieds but no luck after 3 bumps. There's one for sale ebay Germany but the guy thinks I'm a scammer or something. I Googled Craigslist with the item... and if one is available... they'll tell you where it is. Believe me... I've been searching for some time and it appears I did miss a couple.<br />It's funny. I used an online translator. I decided to run the German translation back to English and it made no sense at all. After about 6 re-writes... I thought he should understand me pretty well. Evidently he thought I was struggling with the language. You know how we react when we get something in tortured English.<br />Anyway.... it looked like it sold once and then it get's relisted two more times with no bites. He's asking more than I want to pay.... but it doesn't seem like I'm gonna' have any luck there anyway.<br />Seems most went to Europe. I'll go $350 USD for the cab since I'll get killed on shipping charges.<br />If someone in the US or Canada has one... I'm in the USA.<br />Keep yer eyes opened and help a brother out. Thanks, Dave]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Help me find a cab :: Reply by Unit_1</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101668&amp;p=989463#p989463"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T22:41:55+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T22:41:55+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101668&amp;p=989463#p989463</id>
        <author>
            <name>Unit_1</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[on the language translation....<br /><br />a friend and i played a little game where i'd translate a sentence into a language, and she'd send it back to me in another.<br /><br />the original sentence was &quot;He rode his horse across God's Green Country&quot;<br /><br />after about 30 iterations back and forth we got this:<br /><br />If the horse out of thick green expectations glory in the afterlife with colored animals themselves spiritually and mentally, then. Yes!<br /><br />she uses it for her sig now, lol....]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[on the language translation....<br /><br />a friend and i played a little game where i'd translate a sentence into a language, and she'd send it back to me in another.<br /><br />the original sentence was &quot;He rode his horse across God's Green Country&quot;<br /><br />after about 30 iterations back and forth we got this:<br /><br />If the horse out of thick green expectations glory in the afterlife with colored animals themselves spiritually and mentally, then. Yes!<br /><br />she uses it for her sig now, lol....]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: JTM50 or JTM45 or What? :: Reply by hotrodder1</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101638&amp;p=989474#p989474"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T03:16:46+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T03:16:46+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101638&amp;p=989474#p989474</id>
        <author>
            <name>hotrodder1</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[New tubes, checked the bias, about an hour and one half of break-in time, and it's coming around nicely.  Because it's always had more filtering on the mains and EL34's (which are properly biased with 1k 5w wire wound resistors), I really don't know what an original JTM 45 is supposed to sound like. The tone and kick I remembered from &quot;back in the day&quot; has returned.  The problems have gone away, and the amp is much quieter that I ever remember!  That &quot;Marshall&quot; sound is back, and it'll easily shake the rafters!  The more I play it, the smoother it's getting, and the bass is kicking in now.  It's interesting to hear how it's changing the longer it's run.  I checked the feedback resistor, and it's actually 100k, with a 5 band identity marking.  So this was converted to be more like a 1987. Everyone, thanks for the comments and info.  I've learned a lot.  I'll try to post some sound bytes after a bit more break-in time.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[New tubes, checked the bias, about an hour and one half of break-in time, and it's coming around nicely.  Because it's always had more filtering on the mains and EL34's (which are properly biased with 1k 5w wire wound resistors), I really don't know what an original JTM 45 is supposed to sound like. The tone and kick I remembered from &quot;back in the day&quot; has returned.  The problems have gone away, and the amp is much quieter that I ever remember!  That &quot;Marshall&quot; sound is back, and it'll easily shake the rafters!  The more I play it, the smoother it's getting, and the bass is kicking in now.  It's interesting to hear how it's changing the longer it's run.  I checked the feedback resistor, and it's actually 100k, with a 5 band identity marking.  So this was converted to be more like a 1987. Everyone, thanks for the comments and info.  I've learned a lot.  I'll try to post some sound bytes after a bit more break-in time.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Jim Marshall, passes away aged 88 :: Reply by AC50</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101234&amp;p=989477#p989477"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T05:31:41+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T05:31:41+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101234&amp;p=989477#p989477</id>
        <author>
            <name>AC50</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398352_10150883329682350_314663137349_9738094_202302367_n.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Think Jim would appreciate the humor?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398352_10150883329682350_314663137349_9738094_202302367_n.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Think Jim would appreciate the humor?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by central_scrutinizer</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989426#p989426"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T16:20:10+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T16:20:10+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989426#p989426</id>
        <author>
            <name>central_scrutinizer</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Well here are the measurements for my 1966 JTM45/100: <a href="http://www.csms.nl" class="postlink">http://www.csms.nl</a><br /><br />Volume I   = 1.085M<br />Volume II  = 1.082M<br />Treble      =  292K<br />Mid          = 26.9K<br />Bass         = 0.962M<br />Presence   = 5.13K<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Well here are the measurements for my 1966 JTM45/100: <a href="http://www.csms.nl" class="postlink">http://www.csms.nl</a><br /><br />Volume I   = 1.085M<br />Volume II  = 1.082M<br />Treble      =  292K<br />Mid          = 26.9K<br />Bass         = 0.962M<br />Presence   = 5.13K<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by bigtomrodney</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989433#p989433"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:19:22+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:19:22+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989433#p989433</id>
        <author>
            <name>bigtomrodney</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Whoah. Excepting the treble pot they're pretty close to spec. How does she sound?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Whoah. Excepting the treble pot they're pretty close to spec. How does she sound?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by Miracle Man</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989436#p989436"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:30:05+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:30:05+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989436#p989436</id>
        <author>
            <name>Miracle Man</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Presence   = 26.9K<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I thought the old Marshalls had 5k presence pots. Are you sure it's stock?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Presence   = 26.9K<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I thought the old Marshalls had 5k presence pots. Are you sure it's stock?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by central_scrutinizer</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989439#p989439"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:52:37+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:52:37+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989439#p989439</id>
        <author>
            <name>central_scrutinizer</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Miracle Man wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Presence   = 26.9K<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I thought the old Marshalls had 5k presence pots. Are you sure it's stock?</div></blockquote><br /><br />You are right, I entered the mid value twice. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Miracle Man wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Presence   = 26.9K<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I thought the old Marshalls had 5k presence pots. Are you sure it's stock?</div></blockquote><br /><br />You are right, I entered the mid value twice. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by central_scrutinizer</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989440#p989440"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:56:42+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:56:42+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989440#p989440</id>
        <author>
            <name>central_scrutinizer</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>bigtomrodney wrote:</cite>Whoah. Excepting the treble pot they're pretty close to spec. How does she sound?</div></blockquote><br /><br />This amps is very clean until you turn it up above 7, the it starts singing. ( very loud ) <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>bigtomrodney wrote:</cite>Whoah. Excepting the treble pot they're pretty close to spec. How does she sound?</div></blockquote><br /><br />This amps is very clean until you turn it up above 7, the it starts singing. ( very loud ) <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif" alt=":twisted:" title="Twisted Evil" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by shakti</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989481#p989481"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:06:31+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:06:31+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989481#p989481</id>
        <author>
            <name>shakti</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Well here are the measurements for my 1966 JTM45/100: <a href="http://www.csms.nl" class="postlink">http://www.csms.nl</a><br /><br />Volume I   = 1.085M<br />Volume II  = 1.082M<br />Treble      =  292K<br />Mid          = 26.9K<br />Bass         = 0.962M<br />Presence   = 5.13K<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Many thanks! This is exactly what I'm looking for! I really wonder what that high value treble pot does to the frequency response. I'm on a Mac, so I can't use the Duncan tone stack calculator. Any chance someone could enter the stock values, then these readings and post the output graphs?<br /><br />Another factor to consider is the taper of each pot.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>central_scrutinizer wrote:</cite>Well here are the measurements for my 1966 JTM45/100: <a href="http://www.csms.nl" class="postlink">http://www.csms.nl</a><br /><br />Volume I   = 1.085M<br />Volume II  = 1.082M<br />Treble      =  292K<br />Mid          = 26.9K<br />Bass         = 0.962M<br />Presence   = 5.13K<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Many thanks! This is exactly what I'm looking for! I really wonder what that high value treble pot does to the frequency response. I'm on a Mac, so I can't use the Duncan tone stack calculator. Any chance someone could enter the stock values, then these readings and post the output graphs?<br /><br />Another factor to consider is the taper of each pot.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Marshall :: Re: Potentiometers in vintage Marshalls? :: Reply by Miracle Man</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989489#p989489"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T07:43:37+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T07:43:37+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;t=101648&amp;p=989489#p989489</id>
        <author>
            <name>Miracle Man</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Marshall" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/troy-guitarist/duncan.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Green is typical values, red is modified (I used the 56k/250pf tonestack for the graph). As you can see, you get more upper midrange with the higher value treble pot. Not much difference though. You can compensate for the difference by messing with the control settings.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj49/troy-guitarist/duncan.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Green is typical values, red is modified (I used the 56k/250pf tonestack for the graph). As you can see, you get more upper midrange with the higher value treble pot. Not much difference though. You can compensate for the difference by messing with the control settings.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Back from the dead, rebuild/restoration. :: Reply by Stephen</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101620&amp;p=989393#p989393"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T10:39:55+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T10:39:55+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101620&amp;p=989393#p989393</id>
        <author>
            <name>Stephen</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi all,<br /><br />Thanks for the comments, appreciate it.<br />(I'll post any other stuff that may be of interest).<br /><br />Stephen<br /><br /><!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.thevoxac30guide.com">www.thevoxac30guide.com</a><!-- w -->]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi all,<br /><br />Thanks for the comments, appreciate it.<br />(I'll post any other stuff that may be of interest).<br /><br />Stephen<br /><br /><!-- w --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.thevoxac30guide.com">www.thevoxac30guide.com</a><!-- w -->]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Vox AC-30/4  Black Panel 1961 :: Reply by Strat59</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101659&amp;p=989411#p989411"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T13:50:58+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:50:58+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101659&amp;p=989411#p989411</id>
        <author>
            <name>Strat59</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks Gary   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />    Great to hear. Hope he stays in good health and keeps Rockin.  The amount of young musicians those guys influenced in<br />  the UK &amp; the World is incalcuable. I remember seeing an interview with Hank , he had his guitar and was playing some licks. Had this HUGE old<br />  reverb unit    <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" />    <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Thanks Gary   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />    Great to hear. Hope he stays in good health and keeps Rockin.  The amount of young musicians those guys influenced in<br />  the UK &amp; the World is incalcuable. I remember seeing an interview with Hank , he had his guitar and was playing some licks. Had this HUGE old<br />  reverb unit    <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" />    <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Vox AC-30/4  Black Panel 1961 :: Reply by gary mac</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101659&amp;p=989429#p989429"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:06:04+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:06:04+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101659&amp;p=989429#p989429</id>
        <author>
            <name>gary mac</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Mark <br /><br />Yip those old echo units were quite big some of them go for fortunes now lol <br /><br />Gary]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Mark <br /><br />Yip those old echo units were quite big some of them go for fortunes now lol <br /><br />Gary]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: AC15H1TV + 1X12&quot; box :: Reply by Alsteen</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101301&amp;p=989443#p989443"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T18:20:35+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T18:20:35+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101301&amp;p=989443#p989443</id>
        <author>
            <name>Alsteen</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Sorry, lost there for a sec. Unless I'm mistaken the speaker in your amp is a 16ohm speaker and there are only two settings for your output. 16 and 8 ohms right? So you're stuck with using another 16ohm speaker in parallel to get 8ohms. anything else is gonna be a mismatch. If the speaker in your amp is already 8ohms it's a replacement and is not stock. I'd really like to find the ext cab that VOX made but they're getting scarce.<br /><br />Here's a link to plug in your speakers impedences and gives you the total in series and parallel.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm" class="postlink">http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm</a>]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Sorry, lost there for a sec. Unless I'm mistaken the speaker in your amp is a 16ohm speaker and there are only two settings for your output. 16 and 8 ohms right? So you're stuck with using another 16ohm speaker in parallel to get 8ohms. anything else is gonna be a mismatch. If the speaker in your amp is already 8ohms it's a replacement and is not stock. I'd really like to find the ext cab that VOX made but they're getting scarce.<br /><br />Here's a link to plug in your speakers impedences and gives you the total in series and parallel.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm" class="postlink">http://www.bcae1.com/spkrmlti.htm</a>]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: help required for buying a vox :: Reply by Grog</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989406#p989406"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T13:28:31+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:28:31+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989406#p989406</id>
        <author>
            <name>Grog</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[This one I guess<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Vox-AC-30-Top-Boost-amp-/330726903883?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&amp;hash=item4d00dc104b">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Vox-A ... 4d00dc104b</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Looks fine I'm not sure about how original the Log is on this era but they should sound fine. You could try with diluted PVA and tissue paper it might work just dont add too much paint as that will stiffen the cone and could end up with rubbing. If that doesn't work then send it to Wembley speakers and have it re-coned.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[This one I guess<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Vox-AC-30-Top-Boost-amp-/330726903883?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&amp;hash=item4d00dc104b">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Vox-A ... 4d00dc104b</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Looks fine I'm not sure about how original the Log is on this era but they should sound fine. You could try with diluted PVA and tissue paper it might work just dont add too much paint as that will stiffen the cone and could end up with rubbing. If that doesn't work then send it to Wembley speakers and have it re-coned.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: help required for buying a vox :: Reply by gary mac</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989424#p989424"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:58:38+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:58:38+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989424#p989424</id>
        <author>
            <name>gary mac</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Grog <br /><br />You should be a detective lol yes thats the one i cant wait for it to arrive i was thinking of the pva diluted as i want to keep it original would a re-cone devalue it in any way but if its not going to make much differnce then i will just send it away for a re-cone what do you think Grog ???<br /><br />I have heard that these late 60's early 70's ones are not that dissimilar to the jmi as it was back logged parts/stock used to make them just labelled differently it was not unitll after 1973/4 they changed the design no rectifier and down hill from there lol although i could be very wrong i thought i was better going for this than the cc2 will get pics up when iit arrives .....<br /><br />cheers <br />Gary]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Grog <br /><br />You should be a detective lol yes thats the one i cant wait for it to arrive i was thinking of the pva diluted as i want to keep it original would a re-cone devalue it in any way but if its not going to make much differnce then i will just send it away for a re-cone what do you think Grog ???<br /><br />I have heard that these late 60's early 70's ones are not that dissimilar to the jmi as it was back logged parts/stock used to make them just labelled differently it was not unitll after 1973/4 they changed the design no rectifier and down hill from there lol although i could be very wrong i thought i was better going for this than the cc2 will get pics up when iit arrives .....<br /><br />cheers <br />Gary]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: help required for buying a vox :: Reply by Gooch</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989452#p989452"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T20:07:10+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T20:07:10+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101370&amp;p=989452#p989452</id>
        <author>
            <name>Gooch</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Gary, my AC-30 is very similar to yours except probably just a bit earlier.  Mine has non-original Vox silver AlNiCo speakers in it from late-'67 also.  The construction is nearly identical to a JMI-era unit, but there are a lot more &quot;mustard&quot; caps used than the earlier Wima's.  Transformers are Lemark, they sound fine to my ears.  The amp sounds great, a bit dirtier-sounding than my old JMI (possibly due to the mustards?), but still an instantly recognizable AC-30 tone.  Good luck with your new amp!  Looks like you got a great deal on it!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi Gary, my AC-30 is very similar to yours except probably just a bit earlier.  Mine has non-original Vox silver AlNiCo speakers in it from late-'67 also.  The construction is nearly identical to a JMI-era unit, but there are a lot more &quot;mustard&quot; caps used than the earlier Wima's.  Transformers are Lemark, they sound fine to my ears.  The amp sounds great, a bit dirtier-sounding than my old JMI (possibly due to the mustards?), but still an instantly recognizable AC-30 tone.  Good luck with your new amp!  Looks like you got a great deal on it!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Who knows more about this 60's VOX AC50 amp :: Reply by TonyD</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989445#p989445"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989445#p989445</id>
        <author>
            <name>TonyD</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Who knows more about this 60's VOX AC50 amp :: Reply by TonyD</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989446#p989446"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989446#p989446</id>
        <author>
            <name>TonyD</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Who knows more about this 60's VOX AC50 amp :: Reply by TonyD</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989447#p989447"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989447#p989447</id>
        <author>
            <name>TonyD</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[@Grog <br /><br />ik know what you mean about the wooly sound. I am/was a bass player myself. I was curious though if the original speakers may have any collectors value. Also i was searching for the answer about the cab. Because some suggested it wasn't a VOX and I just knew it was. I know the cab has prob hardly any value for a collector since it has been cut in half.<br /><br />Can anyone see by the new pics i made if it was a &quot;valve or solid state rectification.&quot;?<br /><br />Thanks upfront.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: Who knows more about this 60's VOX AC50 amp :: Reply by pdf64</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989461#p989461"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T22:13:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T22:13:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101593&amp;p=989461#p989461</id>
        <author>
            <name>pdf64</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[I can only see 2 tubes under the grille, so therefore it's most likely a solid state diode rectifier.<br />Pete]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[I can only see 2 tubes under the grille, so therefore it's most likely a solid state diode rectifier.<br />Pete]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: AC30 CC2 - Distortion Issue - Please Help! :: Author AcrossTheRiver</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989403#p989403"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T13:00:45+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:00:45+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989403#p989403</id>
        <author>
            <name>AcrossTheRiver</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hello everyone - my first post ever on the boards here, and I'm sure far from my last!!<br /><br />I can use some expert assistance. I just bought a used AC30 CC2. It sounds great, love the tone, and for the most part works great. BUT... after it's on for about an hour, it does this strange thing - starts to distort in a staticy kind of way. Fiddling with the volume dials does nothing to help. However if I switch into standby for about 5 seconds and flip back - everything is cool again. Is this the dreaded rectifier tube? Any thoughts on what's happening? Would appreciate your expert opinion before I start plucking ttubes at random! Thanks!!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hello everyone - my first post ever on the boards here, and I'm sure far from my last!!<br /><br />I can use some expert assistance. I just bought a used AC30 CC2. It sounds great, love the tone, and for the most part works great. BUT... after it's on for about an hour, it does this strange thing - starts to distort in a staticy kind of way. Fiddling with the volume dials does nothing to help. However if I switch into standby for about 5 seconds and flip back - everything is cool again. Is this the dreaded rectifier tube? Any thoughts on what's happening? Would appreciate your expert opinion before I start plucking ttubes at random! Thanks!!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: AC30 CC2 - Distortion Issue - Please Help! :: Reply by joshatatlasstands</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989473#p989473"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T03:12:24+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T03:12:24+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989473#p989473</id>
        <author>
            <name>joshatatlasstands</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[I had to change the tubes on mine right outta the gate,  one of them was bad.  You may just need a tube replaced.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[I had to change the tubes on mine right outta the gate,  one of them was bad.  You may just need a tube replaced.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Vox :: Re: AC30 CC2 - Distortion Issue - Please Help! :: Reply by R.G.</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989475#p989475"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T04:17:29+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T04:17:29+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&amp;t=101667&amp;p=989475#p989475</id>
        <author>
            <name>R.G.</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Vox" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[First let me apologize if I'm telling you stuff you already know.<br /><br />The first step in debugging a tube amp is always to replace tubes with known good ones. Well, OK, if the problem is clearly that it's charred black from the flames and most of it's melted down into a semi-homogenous puddle, replacing tubes may not be the first step, but other than that - swap tubes with known good ones. <br /><br />You get known good ones by having them before it failed, all waiting and ready. Or by having other amps handy to try them in. Having a full set of replacements ready and pre-tested is the mark of someone who has experience on stage and learns quickly. <br /><br />There are many,  many things this could be. But the most likely first step is still checking tubes. Since the volume controls do nothing, it's after the volume controls in the schematic, so tubes from the output backwards.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[First let me apologize if I'm telling you stuff you already know.<br /><br />The first step in debugging a tube amp is always to replace tubes with known good ones. Well, OK, if the problem is clearly that it's charred black from the flames and most of it's melted down into a semi-homogenous puddle, replacing tubes may not be the first step, but other than that - swap tubes with known good ones. <br /><br />You get known good ones by having them before it failed, all waiting and ready. Or by having other amps handy to try them in. Having a full set of replacements ready and pre-tested is the mark of someone who has experience on stage and learns quickly. <br /><br />There are many,  many things this could be. But the most likely first step is still checking tubes. Since the volume controls do nothing, it's after the volume controls in the schematic, so tubes from the output backwards.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Hiwatt :: 72 Hiwatt halfstack with 64 SG Junior clip :: Author Progrocker111</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=101676&amp;p=989493#p989493"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T08:43:19+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T08:43:19+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=101676&amp;p=989493#p989493</id>
        <author>
            <name>Progrocker111</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Hiwatt" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi folks, <br /><br />i made this clip in our bandroom to hear how my newly acquired 64 Gibson SG Junior sounds recorded. Amp is 72 DR103 with matching 72 SE4122 cab. Amp was cranked, at the beginning there is more clean tone, later comes crunch. Recorded with Zoom H2, in later part its more far from the cab. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /> <br /><br /><a href="http://forum.gitaristi.sk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59212.0;attach=18299" class="postlink">http://forum.gitaristi.sk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59212.0;attach=18299</a>]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi folks, <br /><br />i made this clip in our bandroom to hear how my newly acquired 64 Gibson SG Junior sounds recorded. Amp is 72 DR103 with matching 72 SE4122 cab. Amp was cranked, at the beginning there is more clean tone, later comes crunch. Recorded with Zoom H2, in later part its more far from the cab. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /> <br /><br /><a href="http://forum.gitaristi.sk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59212.0;attach=18299" class="postlink">http://forum.gitaristi.sk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59212.0;attach=18299</a>]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Orange :: Re: crisis of conscious :: Reply by menaswitches</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101644&amp;p=989434#p989434"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:20:21+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:20:21+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101644&amp;p=989434#p989434</id>
        <author>
            <name>menaswitches</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Orange" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Benny Lamb wrote:</cite>NO.</div></blockquote><br />why no?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Benny Lamb wrote:</cite>NO.</div></blockquote><br />why no?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Orange :: Matamp Gt-200 :: Author Gladmarr</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989455#p989455"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:18:11+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:18:11+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989455#p989455</id>
        <author>
            <name>Gladmarr</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Orange" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Just got one. If I can find a speakon connector, I'll even get to play through it!<br /><br /><img src="https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/398197_4003100200942_1384224033_3606946_1818964401_n.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />BLAMMO!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Just got one. If I can find a speakon connector, I'll even get to play through it!<br /><br /><img src="https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/398197_4003100200942_1384224033_3606946_1818964401_n.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />BLAMMO!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Orange :: Re: Matamp Gt-200 :: Reply by amoun</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989458#p989458"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:48:32+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:48:32+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989458#p989458</id>
        <author>
            <name>amoun</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Orange" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[you should ab it with the ormat 200 and see which you like best,<br /><br />is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[you should ab it with the ormat 200 and see which you like best,<br /><br />is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Orange :: Re: Matamp Gt-200 :: Reply by amoun</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989459#p989459"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:48:33+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:48:33+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989459#p989459</id>
        <author>
            <name>amoun</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Orange" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[you should ab it with the ormat 200 and see which you like best,<br /><br />is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[you should ab it with the ormat 200 and see which you like best,<br /><br />is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Orange :: Re: Matamp Gt-200 :: Reply by Gladmarr</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989460#p989460"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:55:33+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:55:33+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=101671&amp;p=989460#p989460</id>
        <author>
            <name>Gladmarr</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Orange" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>amoun wrote:</cite>is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Of course. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>amoun wrote:</cite>is it one of the ones where the green logo lights up?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Of course. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: 1958 Bassman - Opinions on this handle? Tweed? :: Reply by Naked Clarke</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T13:19:43+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:19:43+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101599&amp;p=989405#p989405</id>
        <author>
            <name>Naked Clarke</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Naked Clarke wrote:</cite>I have not found listed a single Bassman Amp with a leather handle prior to early 1959.</div></blockquote> Hi, Naked Clarke. Do you mean &quot;without&quot; a leather handle? Or, did you meant that all pre-1958 Bassmans had rubber handles? I believe the OP's picture of the 1958 Bassman has a rubber dogbone handle (I could be wrong) same as my 1960 Super Amp's rubber dogbone handle.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah I messed it up. I blame it on my allergy medication! <br /><br />No dog bone until early 1959 on the Bassman. No way a mid 1958 was originally built with the dog bone style, further strengthening the recover theory.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Naked Clarke wrote:</cite>I have not found listed a single Bassman Amp with a leather handle prior to early 1959.</div></blockquote> Hi, Naked Clarke. Do you mean &quot;without&quot; a leather handle? Or, did you meant that all pre-1958 Bassmans had rubber handles? I believe the OP's picture of the 1958 Bassman has a rubber dogbone handle (I could be wrong) same as my 1960 Super Amp's rubber dogbone handle.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah I messed it up. I blame it on my allergy medication! <br /><br />No dog bone until early 1959 on the Bassman. No way a mid 1958 was originally built with the dog bone style, further strengthening the recover theory.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Bassman AB165 with microphonic board :: Reply by jazzy</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T13:45:13+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:45:13+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101607&amp;p=989409#p989409</id>
        <author>
            <name>jazzy</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Frustrating isn't it? but hang in there.  The only thing I can suggest is try to isolate the circuit area where the issue is.  I'd start at the power section and remove tubes and/or unsolder input source wire to the section. Then on to power tube section, then PI, etc., and hopefully at some point you start to get that noise.  Then replace/test the components and wires in that section.  There are wires under the board too so  you might have to unsolder a bunch of stuff to get to those wires, hope it doesn't come to that.  Just take your time and try to have fun with the process]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Frustrating isn't it? but hang in there.  The only thing I can suggest is try to isolate the circuit area where the issue is.  I'd start at the power section and remove tubes and/or unsolder input source wire to the section. Then on to power tube section, then PI, etc., and hopefully at some point you start to get that noise.  Then replace/test the components and wires in that section.  There are wires under the board too so  you might have to unsolder a bunch of stuff to get to those wires, hope it doesn't come to that.  Just take your time and try to have fun with the process]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Choosing and using a Variac :: Reply by 2 guest(s)</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T14:49:43+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:49:43+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101621&amp;p=989417#p989417</id>
        <author>
            <name>2 guest(s)</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Steve,<br />I use Variacs just like you are talking about to run my old amps at wall voltages they were made for.  My favorite is the Tenma shown on the Marshall (I purchased this one from Plexi Palace many years ago...don't know if they still sell them or not). I'll just plug in a power stip to it and then plug multiple amps and my pedal board into the power stip.  I usually just run one or two amps and the pedal board off of it at the same time.  Never had a problem with running those three off it.  If you overpower it you'll blow the fuse on it.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gug4QBYIFcA/T10T0XoFjgI/AAAAAAAAE3Q/F9YXQysl_Iw/s400/2012-03-11%252016.03.50.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br /><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3S7hN7N8snU/T7O7c-pE0-I/AAAAAAAAFA8/IWrxPxB0Bm8/s400/2012-05-16%252009.34.09.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />I also have the Weber Browner shown below.  It's much lighter than the Tenma and easier to carry.  However, you are stuck with the &quot;preset&quot; (6v drop, 12v drop, etc.) voltage drops from the wall voltage (it's not variable).  So if the wall voltage is really high you may not be able to get down to 110v for the amp.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ojAPLTI-MMQ/S-5UQl-GPvI/AAAAAAAAAyI/LQaD3kr0Je4/s400/2010-05-15%252000.23.39_Tulsa_Oklahoma_US.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />I just use my voltmeter to regularly check the voltage at the strip to make sure I haven't accidentally moved the Variac knob.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g9G3po1nuRg/T7O8h9oDlII/AAAAAAAAFBE/0FfrKKsNxJk/s400/2012-05-16%252009.38.50.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Steve,<br />I use Variacs just like you are talking about to run my old amps at wall voltages they were made for.  My favorite is the Tenma shown on the Marshall (I purchased this one from Plexi Palace many years ago...don't know if they still sell them or not). I'll just plug in a power stip to it and then plug multiple amps and my pedal board into the power stip.  I usually just run one or two amps and the pedal board off of it at the same time.  Never had a problem with running those three off it.  If you overpower it you'll blow the fuse on it.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gug4QBYIFcA/T10T0XoFjgI/AAAAAAAAE3Q/F9YXQysl_Iw/s400/2012-03-11%252016.03.50.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br /><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3S7hN7N8snU/T7O7c-pE0-I/AAAAAAAAFA8/IWrxPxB0Bm8/s400/2012-05-16%252009.34.09.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />I also have the Weber Browner shown below.  It's much lighter than the Tenma and easier to carry.  However, you are stuck with the &quot;preset&quot; (6v drop, 12v drop, etc.) voltage drops from the wall voltage (it's not variable).  So if the wall voltage is really high you may not be able to get down to 110v for the amp.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ojAPLTI-MMQ/S-5UQl-GPvI/AAAAAAAAAyI/LQaD3kr0Je4/s400/2010-05-15%252000.23.39_Tulsa_Oklahoma_US.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />I just use my voltmeter to regularly check the voltage at the strip to make sure I haven't accidentally moved the Variac knob.<br /><br /><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g9G3po1nuRg/T7O8h9oDlII/AAAAAAAAFBE/0FfrKKsNxJk/s400/2012-05-16%252009.38.50.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Choosing and using a Variac :: Reply by 2 guest(s)</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101621&amp;p=989418#p989418"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:07:50+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:07:50+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101621&amp;p=989418#p989418</id>
        <author>
            <name>2 guest(s)</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[You can buy variac's all over the internet.  Here's a Tenma for $180 <a href="http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/72-110" class="postlink">http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/72-110</a>.  I'm not sure Weber even makes the Browner anymore they don't seem to be listed on their website.  Make sure you buy one that is made in the USA.  It should be higher quality than some of the really inexpensive ones you can buy that are made overseas.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[You can buy variac's all over the internet.  Here's a Tenma for $180 <a href="http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/72-110" class="postlink">http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/72-110</a>.  I'm not sure Weber even makes the Browner anymore they don't seem to be listed on their website.  Make sure you buy one that is made in the USA.  It should be higher quality than some of the really inexpensive ones you can buy that are made overseas.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Speaker Rec's for AB763 DR and 6G11 Vibrolux :: Reply by kblues</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T14:22:41+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T14:22:41+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101617&amp;p=989415#p989415</id>
        <author>
            <name>kblues</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[As the previous borrower of Steve's amp I can say with 100% certainty that the speaker is definitely not a recone.  The mid to late 60's Oxfords are considered by many to be of lower quality than their older brothers.  I have a pair of 64 Oxford 10K5's I run with my 63 Tremolux that are the best sounding speakers I own (including the pair of C10N's I have in my 66 VR...close call with these though).  On the other hand, the original Oxford in Steve's amp is not, in my opinion, usable in its current state.  Maybe a recone would bring it back to life but I think it's worth more to keep it with its original cone as it will be more valuable at resale.  There are a lot of great options out there without resorting to reconing the original.<br /><br />FYI Steve, the Bassman arrived yesterday safe and sound.  I will give you a call either today or tomorrow.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[As the previous borrower of Steve's amp I can say with 100% certainty that the speaker is definitely not a recone.  The mid to late 60's Oxfords are considered by many to be of lower quality than their older brothers.  I have a pair of 64 Oxford 10K5's I run with my 63 Tremolux that are the best sounding speakers I own (including the pair of C10N's I have in my 66 VR...close call with these though).  On the other hand, the original Oxford in Steve's amp is not, in my opinion, usable in its current state.  Maybe a recone would bring it back to life but I think it's worth more to keep it with its original cone as it will be more valuable at resale.  There are a lot of great options out there without resorting to reconing the original.<br /><br />FYI Steve, the Bassman arrived yesterday safe and sound.  I will give you a call either today or tomorrow.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Speaker Rec's for AB763 DR and 6G11 Vibrolux :: Reply by Mik</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T17:12:03+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:12:03+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101617&amp;p=989431#p989431</id>
        <author>
            <name>Mik</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Beaut of a dripedge DR Steve.  The Weber 25 watt alnico 12A150-O is staying in my silverface DR, warm and round tone, great match for a bright amp.  Give you an idea of how damn bright the original speaker is, it's currently doing temporary duty in a tweed amp and is so bright the tone control must be turned waayyy down-a first for me with tweed!!   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Beaut of a dripedge DR Steve.  The Weber 25 watt alnico 12A150-O is staying in my silverface DR, warm and round tone, great match for a bright amp.  Give you an idea of how damn bright the original speaker is, it's currently doing temporary duty in a tweed amp and is so bright the tone control must be turned waayyy down-a first for me with tweed!!   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Bias pot placement in 5E5-A Pro :: Reply by ziess</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T16:05:58+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T16:05:58+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101650&amp;p=989425#p989425</id>
        <author>
            <name>ziess</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Did you just ground one side of the pot or did you use a resistor? <br /><br />Tommy.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Did you just ground one side of the pot or did you use a resistor? <br /><br />Tommy.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Bias pot placement in 5E5-A Pro :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T17:17:48+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:17:48+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101650&amp;p=989432#p989432</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>ziess wrote:</cite>Did you just ground one side of the pot or did you use a resistor? <br /><br />Tommy.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I clipped one leg - used a Cermet.  Good idea or no?  Voltages all seem good.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>ziess wrote:</cite>Did you just ground one side of the pot or did you use a resistor? <br /><br />Tommy.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I clipped one leg - used a Cermet.  Good idea or no?  Voltages all seem good.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Bias pot placement in 5E5-A Pro :: Reply by ziess</title>
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        <published>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:17:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101650&amp;p=989448#p989448</id>
        <author>
            <name>ziess</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[So it's just operating as a variable resistor?  The only problem would be when you've got  the pot all the way down and all the current going through a small portion of the carbon track, more than it might be rated for (the max current of a pot is over it's whole track).  Realistically in a bias circuit I imagine you'll be fine.  I was just interested in how you'd implemented it.  Are you finding enough play in the control there? <br />I prefer to do it the other way so, even with the pot all the way up, ie. letting all the voltage through, there's still a resistance to ground through the resistor on the lug to ground.  <br /><br />Tommy.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[So it's just operating as a variable resistor?  The only problem would be when you've got  the pot all the way down and all the current going through a small portion of the carbon track, more than it might be rated for (the max current of a pot is over it's whole track).  Realistically in a bias circuit I imagine you'll be fine.  I was just interested in how you'd implemented it.  Are you finding enough play in the control there? <br />I prefer to do it the other way so, even with the pot all the way up, ie. letting all the voltage through, there's still a resistance to ground through the resistor on the lug to ground.  <br /><br />Tommy.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Bias pot placement in 5E5-A Pro :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101650&amp;p=989450#p989450"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T19:43:18+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T19:43:18+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101650&amp;p=989450#p989450</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>ziess wrote:</cite>So it's just operating as a variable resistor?  The only problem would be when you've got  the pot all the way down and all the current going through a small portion of the carbon track, more than it might be rated for (the max current of a pot is over it's whole track).  Realistically in a bias circuit I imagine you'll be fine.  I was just interested in how you'd implemented it.  Are you finding enough play in the control there? <br />I prefer to do it the other way so, even with the pot all the way up, ie. letting all the voltage through, there's still a resistance to ground through the resistor on the lug to ground.  <br /><br />Tommy.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Ah, got it.  I'll check the pot, iirc it's rated pretty high.  But I'll revise next time I'm in the amp.  And, yes, with the changed 6.8 to 4.7k, there's plenty of adjustment.<br /><br />Thanks, Tommy.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>ziess wrote:</cite>So it's just operating as a variable resistor?  The only problem would be when you've got  the pot all the way down and all the current going through a small portion of the carbon track, more than it might be rated for (the max current of a pot is over it's whole track).  Realistically in a bias circuit I imagine you'll be fine.  I was just interested in how you'd implemented it.  Are you finding enough play in the control there? <br />I prefer to do it the other way so, even with the pot all the way up, ie. letting all the voltage through, there's still a resistance to ground through the resistor on the lug to ground.  <br /><br />Tommy.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Ah, got it.  I'll check the pot, iirc it's rated pretty high.  But I'll revise next time I'm in the amp.  And, yes, with the changed 6.8 to 4.7k, there's plenty of adjustment.<br /><br />Thanks, Tommy.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Weber kit options for bass :: Author jeffstivers</title>
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        <published>2012-05-17T02:40:19+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T02:40:19+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101673&amp;p=989469#p989469</id>
        <author>
            <name>jeffstivers</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[My sisters boyfriend is a bass player who is recently trying to teach himself how to play the keyboard. I've built a couple of kits and he wants me to build one for him with his tax return. I would really like to build him a 5F6-A bassman, also thought a 1x15 ab763 twin would probably be pretty cool as far as swapping between bass and the keyboard. What would I do to voice the bassman for bass (i.e. ive heard IIRC the lily amps are better for guitar)? And what speakers would you recommend if we went with the ab763 vibrosonic for bass? Also in the pi would it be wise to use the silver face .01 value as opposed to the blackface .001? <br />Any opinions and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[My sisters boyfriend is a bass player who is recently trying to teach himself how to play the keyboard. I've built a couple of kits and he wants me to build one for him with his tax return. I would really like to build him a 5F6-A bassman, also thought a 1x15 ab763 twin would probably be pretty cool as far as swapping between bass and the keyboard. What would I do to voice the bassman for bass (i.e. ive heard IIRC the lily amps are better for guitar)? And what speakers would you recommend if we went with the ab763 vibrosonic for bass? Also in the pi would it be wise to use the silver face .01 value as opposed to the blackface .001? <br />Any opinions and or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Weber kit options for bass :: Reply by Swingville</title>
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        <published>2012-05-17T05:43:02+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T05:43:02+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101673&amp;p=989479#p989479</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Interesting question since the Bassman was originally designed for bass guitar tones.<br />But, Guitar players stepped right in without any changes, didn't they?<br /><br />I will be following your thread to see what the experts share.<br /><br />But, I wonder if modern (1975-2012) Bass Amplifiers (amp heads and combo amps)<br />will easily take to guitar or if there is a problem.<br />I'd think dedicated Bass amps could have their treble &amp; gain up and bass &amp; mids lowered.<br />What does anyone think?<br /><br />Can all bass amps work well with guitars? <br />And which guitar amps work well with bass guitars? (Showman? Bassman Reissues? etc)]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Interesting question since the Bassman was originally designed for bass guitar tones.<br />But, Guitar players stepped right in without any changes, didn't they?<br /><br />I will be following your thread to see what the experts share.<br /><br />But, I wonder if modern (1975-2012) Bass Amplifiers (amp heads and combo amps)<br />will easily take to guitar or if there is a problem.<br />I'd think dedicated Bass amps could have their treble &amp; gain up and bass &amp; mids lowered.<br />What does anyone think?<br /><br />Can all bass amps work well with guitars? <br />And which guitar amps work well with bass guitars? (Showman? Bassman Reissues? etc)]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Pictures of my 1959 Bandmaster :: Reply by Inventour</title>
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        <published>2012-05-17T06:41:56+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:41:56+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101542&amp;p=989487#p989487</id>
        <author>
            <name>Inventour</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>sthebluesman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Inventour wrote:</cite>I can't see by the pics posted, is the OT ground wire soldered to the frame of the OT?<br /><br />It's not the best method, what I do is  either clip the wire at the spot-solder to leave the <br />solder-spot original, then if the wire is long enough I run the wire through the hole and<br />solder it directly to the Speaker Jack Terminal. This gives you the best possible<br />speaker ground. Usually there is enough wire to run the Ground wire direct to the<br />Speaker Jack Ground Terminal. And sometimes I need to add a small piece of wire<br />to make it complete. Almost in every case there is plenty of wire to reach the jack<br />without having to add wire. <br /><br />This is a big problem with amps that still have the 2 prong cord and un-grounded chassis.<br />Many times a hum resulted in people not using the polarity/ground switch, and or reversing<br />the 2 prong plug in the wall to help stop a hum. Don't forget about the death cap removal<br />when grounding the old amps.<br /><br />I still need to ground my newly acquired pro amp to a 3-prong cord.<br />My favorite cord for the old tweeds is the 10' foot long 14 Ga. Panamax extension cord<br />that is used for a ground suppressor unit. It's a very high quality cable that coils easily<br />and lays flat when you un-coil and use it.<br /><br />you can find them for a good price if you shop around, like 10.00. The color is the same as the old PEC cords.<br /><br />Many guys us them for tweeds,</div></blockquote><br />I just had a thought that I could piggy back a ground wire from the OT chassis wire to the speaker jack.  That way, I don't have to change anything.  What type of wire would you suggest?  That braided bare wire looks good but I don't know where to get that.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I personally like the vintage cloth wiring myself.<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.hoffmanamps.com/">http://www.hoffmanamps.com/</a><!-- m --><br /><br />click-on  Enter the Hoffman Amps Web Store Parts Catalog Link, then the wire link.<br />The Green Heater wire would do the job, 1 foot.<br />It's a little thick, heavy but would look good and make a solid ground.<br />This is the wire I use to bond my Bassman &amp; Tweed filter cap covers<br />to a ground terminal (The power cord tranny nut) I solder the wire <br />to the cap cover and run about 24&quot; or less to the PT Lug ground.<br /><br />You should buy some yellow 22 Ga. while your at it,<br />it comes in handy. The brown is a good color to use for ground.<br /><br /><br />18 ga solid core wire - Cloth Jacket<br />Used for heater wires.<br />Sold by the foot.<br />Price each = $0.65 <br /><br /><img src="http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/8275458/640/8275458.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>sthebluesman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Inventour wrote:</cite>I can't see by the pics posted, is the OT ground wire soldered to the frame of the OT?<br /><br />It's not the best method, what I do is  either clip the wire at the spot-solder to leave the <br />solder-spot original, then if the wire is long enough I run the wire through the hole and<br />solder it directly to the Speaker Jack Terminal. This gives you the best possible<br />speaker ground. Usually there is enough wire to run the Ground wire direct to the<br />Speaker Jack Ground Terminal. And sometimes I need to add a small piece of wire<br />to make it complete. Almost in every case there is plenty of wire to reach the jack<br />without having to add wire. <br /><br />This is a big problem with amps that still have the 2 prong cord and un-grounded chassis.<br />Many times a hum resulted in people not using the polarity/ground switch, and or reversing<br />the 2 prong plug in the wall to help stop a hum. Don't forget about the death cap removal<br />when grounding the old amps.<br /><br />I still need to ground my newly acquired pro amp to a 3-prong cord.<br />My favorite cord for the old tweeds is the 10' foot long 14 Ga. Panamax extension cord<br />that is used for a ground suppressor unit. It's a very high quality cable that coils easily<br />and lays flat when you un-coil and use it.<br /><br />you can find them for a good price if you shop around, like 10.00. The color is the same as the old PEC cords.<br /><br />Many guys us them for tweeds,</div></blockquote><br />I just had a thought that I could piggy back a ground wire from the OT chassis wire to the speaker jack.  That way, I don't have to change anything.  What type of wire would you suggest?  That braided bare wire looks good but I don't know where to get that.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I personally like the vintage cloth wiring myself.<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.hoffmanamps.com/">http://www.hoffmanamps.com/</a><!-- m --><br /><br />click-on  Enter the Hoffman Amps Web Store Parts Catalog Link, then the wire link.<br />The Green Heater wire would do the job, 1 foot.<br />It's a little thick, heavy but would look good and make a solid ground.<br />This is the wire I use to bond my Bassman &amp; Tweed filter cap covers<br />to a ground terminal (The power cord tranny nut) I solder the wire <br />to the cap cover and run about 24&quot; or less to the PT Lug ground.<br /><br />You should buy some yellow 22 Ga. while your at it,<br />it comes in handy. The brown is a good color to use for ground.<br /><br /><br />18 ga solid core wire - Cloth Jacket<br />Used for heater wires.<br />Sold by the foot.<br />Price each = $0.65 <br /><br /><img src="http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/8275458/640/8275458.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Now, this is nice :: Author mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989442#p989442"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T18:19:49+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T18:19:49+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989442#p989442</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320907517505">http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0907517505</a><!-- m --><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320907517505">http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0907517505</a><!-- m --><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup" />]]></summary>
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    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Now, this is nice :: Reply by Strat59</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989468#p989468"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T02:14:17+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T02:14:17+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989468#p989468</id>
        <author>
            <name>Strat59</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[+1  Am bidding on it now.  Don't need it but it's such a little cutie and Pristine.  End price might be too much for what it is but ............<br /><br /> Never been partial to small speakers though (6&quot; /  8&quot; )  Even though many swear by the Champ. Always sounded too small and boxy . Mic'd up to record<br /> might be a another matter. But it's a pretty example.<br /><br />  Not so sure the speaker is original though. Looks a later type ?<br /><br />  Asked the seller for a pic showing the Circuit Board (Top Back Panel Off) ..... no reply so far.<br /><br />  WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[+1  Am bidding on it now.  Don't need it but it's such a little cutie and Pristine.  End price might be too much for what it is but ............<br /><br /> Never been partial to small speakers though (6&quot; /  8&quot; )  Even though many swear by the Champ. Always sounded too small and boxy . Mic'd up to record<br /> might be a another matter. But it's a pretty example.<br /><br />  Not so sure the speaker is original though. Looks a later type ?<br /><br />  Asked the seller for a pic showing the Circuit Board (Top Back Panel Off) ..... no reply so far.<br /><br />  WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Now, this is nice :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989480#p989480"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T05:49:41+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T05:49:41+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989480#p989480</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>   WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /></div></blockquote><br />Also, how many sellers do not offer a year, but give a &quot;range&quot; or decade?<br /><br />Nice old amp.<br />Maybe good for family home livingroom time  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>   WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /></div></blockquote><br />Also, how many sellers do not offer a year, but give a &quot;range&quot; or decade?<br /><br />Nice old amp.<br />Maybe good for family home livingroom time  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Now, this is nice :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989483#p989483"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:14:58+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:14:58+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989483#p989483</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>+1  Am bidding on it now.  Don't need it but it's such a little cutie and Pristine.  End price might be too much for what it is but ............<br /><br /> Never been partial to small speakers though (6&quot; /  8&quot; )  Even though many swear by the Champ. Always sounded too small and boxy . Mic'd up to record<br /> might be a another matter. But it's a pretty example.<br /><br />  Not so sure the speaker is original though. Looks a later type ?<br /><br />  Asked the seller for a pic showing the Circuit Board (Top Back Panel Off) ..... no reply so far.<br /><br />  WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />You're right, it's going to go pretty high, I think.  Anybody read the research that went into the new(ish) Mini?  Apparently, having the proportions of a baby shoe is a guarantee that people will want to buy your stuff.  This has the cute factor.<br /><br />This guy's a volume/estate buying dealer - close to 46,000 transactions.  I'd be surprised if he took any more photos, but you never know. With the condition it's in, somebody'll buy without chassis photos.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>Also, how many sellers do not offer a year, but give a &quot;range&quot; or decade?<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Swingville, it's a TV-front amp.  Serial number is visible in the photo.  What more do you need?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Strat59 wrote:</cite>+1  Am bidding on it now.  Don't need it but it's such a little cutie and Pristine.  End price might be too much for what it is but ............<br /><br /> Never been partial to small speakers though (6&quot; /  8&quot; )  Even though many swear by the Champ. Always sounded too small and boxy . Mic'd up to record<br /> might be a another matter. But it's a pretty example.<br /><br />  Not so sure the speaker is original though. Looks a later type ?<br /><br />  Asked the seller for a pic showing the Circuit Board (Top Back Panel Off) ..... no reply so far.<br /><br />  WHAT is it with all these sellers , they take pics of everything except the critical areas ( Circuit Board / Trannies) then get narky when you ask for a <br />  shot of those areas. Would they buy a car without looking in the engine bay / interior of the car.   <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />You're right, it's going to go pretty high, I think.  Anybody read the research that went into the new(ish) Mini?  Apparently, having the proportions of a baby shoe is a guarantee that people will want to buy your stuff.  This has the cute factor.<br /><br />This guy's a volume/estate buying dealer - close to 46,000 transactions.  I'd be surprised if he took any more photos, but you never know. With the condition it's in, somebody'll buy without chassis photos.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>Also, how many sellers do not offer a year, but give a &quot;range&quot; or decade?<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Swingville, it's a TV-front amp.  Serial number is visible in the photo.  What more do you need?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Now, this is nice :: Reply by Strat59</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989490#p989490"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T07:54:36+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T07:54:36+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101670&amp;p=989490#p989490</id>
        <author>
            <name>Strat59</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[True.  He would only have a faint knowledge of what it is other than a nice clean old Fender. He'd buy photograph and list those Estate Items as is.<br /><br />  Trouble is with the price climbing into Collector territory, you wouldn't want to pay the price of a 100% Stock amp and then take delivery open up the<br />  back and fine the circuit board has been re done or wither the Mains or O/T has been replaced. <br /><br />  Need to see some pics to confirm before paying a decent price , without any little surprises.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[True.  He would only have a faint knowledge of what it is other than a nice clean old Fender. He'd buy photograph and list those Estate Items as is.<br /><br />  Trouble is with the price climbing into Collector territory, you wouldn't want to pay the price of a 100% Stock amp and then take delivery open up the<br />  back and fine the circuit board has been re done or wither the Mains or O/T has been replaced. <br /><br />  Need to see some pics to confirm before paying a decent price , without any little surprises.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989399#p989399"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T12:44:59+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:44:59+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989399#p989399</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>jeffstivers wrote:</cite>I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />That is what we are implying. All amps are hand wired.<br />Another way to describe the amp's wiring or ciricuitry is: <br />1) This amp is = Hand Wired with no Tag Board (really old pre 1950s amps).<br />2) This amp is = Hand Wired with Tag Board (what most people think when using &quot;hand-wired&quot; in advertising descriptions).<br />3) This amp is = Hand Wired with Tag Board &amp; PCB Board (what most people think as non-hand-wired. Or PCB board only. But, even PCB amps have hand wiring).<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">So, all guitar amps are hand-wired!<br /><br />I believe Naked Clarke suggested that declaring that a guitar amplifier<br />&quot;does have a PCB board installed or does not have a PCB board installed&quot;.<br />This is the best question to get a more direct answer.  Don't cha think?</span>]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>jeffstivers wrote:</cite>I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.</div></blockquote><br /><br /><br />That is what we are implying. All amps are hand wired.<br />Another way to describe the amp's wiring or ciricuitry is: <br />1) This amp is = Hand Wired with no Tag Board (really old pre 1950s amps).<br />2) This amp is = Hand Wired with Tag Board (what most people think when using &quot;hand-wired&quot; in advertising descriptions).<br />3) This amp is = Hand Wired with Tag Board &amp; PCB Board (what most people think as non-hand-wired. Or PCB board only. But, even PCB amps have hand wiring).<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">So, all guitar amps are hand-wired!<br /><br />I believe Naked Clarke suggested that declaring that a guitar amplifier<br />&quot;does have a PCB board installed or does not have a PCB board installed&quot;.<br />This is the best question to get a more direct answer.  Don't cha think?</span>]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by bigtomrodney</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989404#p989404"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T13:02:21+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T13:02:21+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989404#p989404</id>
        <author>
            <name>bigtomrodney</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>jeffstivers wrote:</cite>I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.</div></blockquote>Here's a misunderstanding right here. What do you mean by PCB/Printed Circuit Board? <br /><br />A PCB, it's a circuit board that is printed or etched. Now the confusion here is I believe if you muddle this with SMC or Surface Mounted Components. That's where the problem comes in for us folk really. They're difficult and sometimes impossible to work on let alone modify. But take the ST1 boards from Marshalls of the 1970s right up in some cases to the present day. These boards are printed (or rather etched) and then populated by hand, then connected to off-board components.<br /><br />These are truly hand-assembled amps. The ST1 etched boards provide a marginally shorter assembly time and are less expensive. They provide a marginally longer time to modify or repair and some will say are less sturdy when it comes to repeated modification. The fact is if you take a 1971 Marshall and a 1973 Marshall of the same model you get the same components right down to the phenolic sockets, mustard caps and resistors. An amp with an ST1 board is at least as stable and solidly constructed as a turretboard and maybe even moreso when excluding aftermarket modification. The reality is that the difference in reputation these PCB amps have from the closest-related earlier turretboard amps rests more on sentiment and at worst the value of the Channel 1 bright cap. After all we have no problem with the etched board in a Clyde McCoy wah, MkII Tonebender or Arbiter Fuzz Face.<br /><br />Now if you make the line in the sand sit between hand-populated/hand-wired and Surface Mounted Components/Surface Mounted Design I think we can all finally put this to rest. Your typical Fender Blues Deluxe is 90% SMC board with just offboard wiring, even that is limited with sockets mounted on a daughterboard and ribbon cable connecting them. Still solid amps and any beef you have with their sound doesn't rest on the board's construction technique. But come time to modify or repair, or worse a case of capacitor plague and I'm out of here.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>jeffstivers wrote:</cite>I don't think there is such a thing as a hand wired with a printed circuit board amp, unless you consider it hand wired as long as somebody has wired part of the amp by hand. But in that case even most SS amps would be hand wired.</div></blockquote>Here's a misunderstanding right here. What do you mean by PCB/Printed Circuit Board? <br /><br />A PCB, it's a circuit board that is printed or etched. Now the confusion here is I believe if you muddle this with SMC or Surface Mounted Components. That's where the problem comes in for us folk really. They're difficult and sometimes impossible to work on let alone modify. But take the ST1 boards from Marshalls of the 1970s right up in some cases to the present day. These boards are printed (or rather etched) and then populated by hand, then connected to off-board components.<br /><br />These are truly hand-assembled amps. The ST1 etched boards provide a marginally shorter assembly time and are less expensive. They provide a marginally longer time to modify or repair and some will say are less sturdy when it comes to repeated modification. The fact is if you take a 1971 Marshall and a 1973 Marshall of the same model you get the same components right down to the phenolic sockets, mustard caps and resistors. An amp with an ST1 board is at least as stable and solidly constructed as a turretboard and maybe even moreso when excluding aftermarket modification. The reality is that the difference in reputation these PCB amps have from the closest-related earlier turretboard amps rests more on sentiment and at worst the value of the Channel 1 bright cap. After all we have no problem with the etched board in a Clyde McCoy wah, MkII Tonebender or Arbiter Fuzz Face.<br /><br />Now if you make the line in the sand sit between hand-populated/hand-wired and Surface Mounted Components/Surface Mounted Design I think we can all finally put this to rest. Your typical Fender Blues Deluxe is 90% SMC board with just offboard wiring, even that is limited with sockets mounted on a daughterboard and ribbon cable connecting them. Still solid amps and any beef you have with their sound doesn't rest on the board's construction technique. But come time to modify or repair, or worse a case of capacitor plague and I'm out of here.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989423#p989423"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:51:32+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:51:32+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989423#p989423</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi, Big Tom Rodney! Thanks for responding. I am not discussing Marshall, just Fender.<br /><br /><br />The Green PCB boards that are computer designed, machine produced boards that either remove<br />or replace many of the wiring &amp; soldering work previously done within the &quot;tag board&quot; amplifiers.<br />To me, these green PCB designed schematic boards are what I'm referring to.   Earlier in this thread,<br />Old School Dave shared a great video on the modern Fender factory production processes for amplifiers.<br /><br />The modern PCB based amps still have hand stuffed components such as IC chips and tubes (I believe)<br />as well plenty of connections still requiring hand wired &quot;point-to-point&quot; soldering.<br />Therefore, all amps have &quot;hand wired&quot; soldered connections.  Even solid state amps.<br /><br />The generation before PCB boards had &quot;tag boards&quot; which are the 1950s-1970s Fender amps. They did not<br />utilize machines &amp; computer technology the way the modern green PCB board amps use technology.<br />These &quot;tag board&quot; amps also used hand wiring solder connections.  I believe that when sellers and advertisers<br />and boutique amp marketers claim &quot;hand-wired&quot;, they are discussing the &quot;tag board&quot; amps that use<br />&quot;point-to-point&quot; hand soldering for the wiring connections.  I am not sure when the technology changes<br />took place during the 1970s/1980s and to which amps.  I have seen interesting changes in Fender amps<br />around the Paul Rivera era and some of the later 1980s amps advertised on EBay.  <br /><br />There's a 1990s Pro Series of Fender amps, Supersonic amps, Fender Chorus amp, Fender Cyper Twin,<br />The Frontman Fender amps, and many more, that I will bet use the green PCB boards.<br /><br />Then, if I can get this right, the true early &quot;point to point' hand wired soldered connections<br />without tag boards probably took place from the 1920s-1940s.  Kind of pre-Fender.<br /><br /><br />So, what Naked Clarke stated and I like is that &quot;ALL FENDER AMPs are hand wired to some degree&quot;.<br />A better way to discuss modern Fender amps compared to older Fender amps is to ask the simple<br />question: Does the amp have a PCB board or NOT?  <br />This does not mean quality or desirability, just the fact, and better description than an amp is &quot;Hand Wired&quot;.<br /><br />For sure, there are hand wired amps considered better than PCB amps<br />and PCB amps that are better than hand wired amps.<br />And, amps that are 50%/50% similar to the Supersonic 100w<br />which is 50% solid state and has 13 power &amp; pre-amp tubes installed!!!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi, Big Tom Rodney! Thanks for responding. I am not discussing Marshall, just Fender.<br /><br /><br />The Green PCB boards that are computer designed, machine produced boards that either remove<br />or replace many of the wiring &amp; soldering work previously done within the &quot;tag board&quot; amplifiers.<br />To me, these green PCB designed schematic boards are what I'm referring to.   Earlier in this thread,<br />Old School Dave shared a great video on the modern Fender factory production processes for amplifiers.<br /><br />The modern PCB based amps still have hand stuffed components such as IC chips and tubes (I believe)<br />as well plenty of connections still requiring hand wired &quot;point-to-point&quot; soldering.<br />Therefore, all amps have &quot;hand wired&quot; soldered connections.  Even solid state amps.<br /><br />The generation before PCB boards had &quot;tag boards&quot; which are the 1950s-1970s Fender amps. They did not<br />utilize machines &amp; computer technology the way the modern green PCB board amps use technology.<br />These &quot;tag board&quot; amps also used hand wiring solder connections.  I believe that when sellers and advertisers<br />and boutique amp marketers claim &quot;hand-wired&quot;, they are discussing the &quot;tag board&quot; amps that use<br />&quot;point-to-point&quot; hand soldering for the wiring connections.  I am not sure when the technology changes<br />took place during the 1970s/1980s and to which amps.  I have seen interesting changes in Fender amps<br />around the Paul Rivera era and some of the later 1980s amps advertised on EBay.  <br /><br />There's a 1990s Pro Series of Fender amps, Supersonic amps, Fender Chorus amp, Fender Cyper Twin,<br />The Frontman Fender amps, and many more, that I will bet use the green PCB boards.<br /><br />Then, if I can get this right, the true early &quot;point to point' hand wired soldered connections<br />without tag boards probably took place from the 1920s-1940s.  Kind of pre-Fender.<br /><br /><br />So, what Naked Clarke stated and I like is that &quot;ALL FENDER AMPs are hand wired to some degree&quot;.<br />A better way to discuss modern Fender amps compared to older Fender amps is to ask the simple<br />question: Does the amp have a PCB board or NOT?  <br />This does not mean quality or desirability, just the fact, and better description than an amp is &quot;Hand Wired&quot;.<br /><br />For sure, there are hand wired amps considered better than PCB amps<br />and PCB amps that are better than hand wired amps.<br />And, amps that are 50%/50% similar to the Supersonic 100w<br />which is 50% solid state and has 13 power &amp; pre-amp tubes installed!!!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989435#p989435"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:24:40+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:24:40+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989435#p989435</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Swingville, take a look at Fender amps in the 70's - still &quot;hand wired&quot; but not very well.  If you're saying &quot;some of each kind are good&quot; (I kind of got lost in the middle of your last post), what's your point?<br /><br />Bigtom's summary of the real issue here (surface mount stuff) was spot on, whether it's about Marshalls or Fenders.<br /><br />There's a whole lot of mythology floating around the Internet - don't believe everything you read and above all, don't pass it along as if it were gospel.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Swingville, take a look at Fender amps in the 70's - still &quot;hand wired&quot; but not very well.  If you're saying &quot;some of each kind are good&quot; (I kind of got lost in the middle of your last post), what's your point?<br /><br />Bigtom's summary of the real issue here (surface mount stuff) was spot on, whether it's about Marshalls or Fenders.<br /><br />There's a whole lot of mythology floating around the Internet - don't believe everything you read and above all, don't pass it along as if it were gospel.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by bigtomrodney</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989437#p989437"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:36:48+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:36:48+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989437#p989437</id>
        <author>
            <name>bigtomrodney</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[I didn't mean to drag this to Marshall as much to reach into my experience as I deal more with Marshall's. Sure you can look at the most productionised amp that is all SMC except for some pot and transformer wiring but that could not in any intellectually honest way be considered handwired. Once you include even a partially SMC built amp all bets are off on tinkering and often for repair work within reason.<br /><br />My point and perhaps I should have been more clear is that in real terms you should not separate an amp built from hand populated etched boards from a turret or tag board. The Marshall example paints a fair picture though it is not a Fender...maybe someone else can provide a similar Fender example. It would be dishonest and arbitrary to lump a hand-etched board that has been hand populated with a motherboard printed in a large industrial press whether from a manufacturing or end product point if view. The fact is you could make an etched board in your home with just a marker and a bath of juristic acid.<br /><br />A good example to lead by would be to compare a 1967 Clyde wah with a few hand populated and solder components which can easily be repaired or modded to a recent construction Vox V847A or Cry Baby GCB95 which are almost entirely printed with miniscule SMC components and host their jacks on the board itself. One is traditional,small production, flexible and easily maintained...the other barely sees a human hand and if it breaks you throw it in the bin.<br /><br />So as I said, the line in the sand for these things goes between SMC and non SMC. Your Hot Rod Deluxe will play great until it breaks..then you decide whether to chance a fix, order an entirely new board or gut it and go for a tagboard.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[I didn't mean to drag this to Marshall as much to reach into my experience as I deal more with Marshall's. Sure you can look at the most productionised amp that is all SMC except for some pot and transformer wiring but that could not in any intellectually honest way be considered handwired. Once you include even a partially SMC built amp all bets are off on tinkering and often for repair work within reason.<br /><br />My point and perhaps I should have been more clear is that in real terms you should not separate an amp built from hand populated etched boards from a turret or tag board. The Marshall example paints a fair picture though it is not a Fender...maybe someone else can provide a similar Fender example. It would be dishonest and arbitrary to lump a hand-etched board that has been hand populated with a motherboard printed in a large industrial press whether from a manufacturing or end product point if view. The fact is you could make an etched board in your home with just a marker and a bath of juristic acid.<br /><br />A good example to lead by would be to compare a 1967 Clyde wah with a few hand populated and solder components which can easily be repaired or modded to a recent construction Vox V847A or Cry Baby GCB95 which are almost entirely printed with miniscule SMC components and host their jacks on the board itself. One is traditional,small production, flexible and easily maintained...the other barely sees a human hand and if it breaks you throw it in the bin.<br /><br />So as I said, the line in the sand for these things goes between SMC and non SMC. Your Hot Rod Deluxe will play great until it breaks..then you decide whether to chance a fix, order an entirely new board or gut it and go for a tagboard.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989482#p989482"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:06:40+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:06:40+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989482#p989482</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>mylescdavis wrote:</cite>Swingville, take a look at Fender amps in the 70's - still &quot;hand wired&quot; but not very well.  If you're saying &quot;some of each kind are good&quot; (I kind of got lost in the middle of your last post), what's your point? Bigtom's summary of the real issue here (surface mount stuff) was spot on, whether it's about Marshalls or Fenders. There's a whole lot of mythology floating around the Internet - don't believe everything you read and above all, don't pass it along as if it were gospel.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Hi, Myles. My point to BigTom is to draw the line at what is considered &quot;hand wired&quot; by <br />today's advertisers and sellers, like &quot;hand-wired&quot; is something to be desired vs non-hand-wired.<br /><br />But, the term is sometimes being misused to lure buyers to higher prices. Naked Clarke implied that<br />all amps are hand-wired to some degree and NC suggested (to my interpretation) to draw the line as:<br />** Pre-PCB Board Amps being &quot;hand wired&quot;  ***<span style="font-weight: bold">Post PCB Board Amps being &quot;PCP Board Amps&quot; </span><br />as hand-wiring is misleading. <br /><br />This leads to the point of the entire thread, in my opinion:<br />Are PCB based amp better/worse/equal to &quot;tag-board&quot; based amps (no matter the era)?<br /><br />The VibroKing Amp,  I will bet DOES NOT have a green PCB board - I could be wrong<br />Most all boutique amps DO NOT have green PCB boards either.<br />Most all modern Big Factory Production Amps (Fender Marshall Peavey, etc.) DO HAVE green PCB boards.<br /><br />I am open to be incorrect, but can you imagine the costs if modern amps were PTP wired &amp; soldered?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>mylescdavis wrote:</cite>Swingville, take a look at Fender amps in the 70's - still &quot;hand wired&quot; but not very well.  If you're saying &quot;some of each kind are good&quot; (I kind of got lost in the middle of your last post), what's your point? Bigtom's summary of the real issue here (surface mount stuff) was spot on, whether it's about Marshalls or Fenders. There's a whole lot of mythology floating around the Internet - don't believe everything you read and above all, don't pass it along as if it were gospel.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Hi, Myles. My point to BigTom is to draw the line at what is considered &quot;hand wired&quot; by <br />today's advertisers and sellers, like &quot;hand-wired&quot; is something to be desired vs non-hand-wired.<br /><br />But, the term is sometimes being misused to lure buyers to higher prices. Naked Clarke implied that<br />all amps are hand-wired to some degree and NC suggested (to my interpretation) to draw the line as:<br />** Pre-PCB Board Amps being &quot;hand wired&quot;  ***<span style="font-weight: bold">Post PCB Board Amps being &quot;PCP Board Amps&quot; </span><br />as hand-wiring is misleading. <br /><br />This leads to the point of the entire thread, in my opinion:<br />Are PCB based amp better/worse/equal to &quot;tag-board&quot; based amps (no matter the era)?<br /><br />The VibroKing Amp,  I will bet DOES NOT have a green PCB board - I could be wrong<br />Most all boutique amps DO NOT have green PCB boards either.<br />Most all modern Big Factory Production Amps (Fender Marshall Peavey, etc.) DO HAVE green PCB boards.<br /><br />I am open to be incorrect, but can you imagine the costs if modern amps were PTP wired &amp; soldered?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989484#p989484"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:21:16+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:21:16+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989484#p989484</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>I am open to be incorrect, but can you imagine the costs if modern amps were PTP wired &amp; soldered?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yes, they would cost what boutique amps cost, which, adjusted for inflation, is about what Fenders cost at the time of their manufacture.<br /><br />There's no controversy here, so why make one up?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>I am open to be incorrect, but can you imagine the costs if modern amps were PTP wired &amp; soldered?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yes, they would cost what boutique amps cost, which, adjusted for inflation, is about what Fenders cost at the time of their manufacture.<br /><br />There's no controversy here, so why make one up?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989485#p989485"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:25:22+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:25:22+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989485#p989485</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>bigtomrodney wrote:</cite>I didn't mean to drag this to Marshall as much to reach into my experience as I deal more with Marshall's. Sure you can look at the most productionised amp that is all SMC except for some pot and transformer wiring but that could not in any intellectually honest way be considered handwired. Once you include even a partially SMC built amp all bets are off on tinkering and often for repair work within reason. My point and perhaps I should have been more clear is that in real terms you should not separate an amp built from hand populated etched boards from a turret or tag board. The Marshall example paints a fair picture though it is not a Fender...maybe someone else can provide a similar Fender example. It would be dishonest and arbitrary to lump a hand-etched board that has been hand populated with a motherboard printed in a large industrial press whether from a manufacturing or end product point if view. The fact is you could make an etched board in your home with just a marker and a bath of juristic acid. A good example to lead by would be to compare a 1967 Clyde wah with a few hand populated and solder components which can easily be repaired or modded to a recent construction Vox V847A or Cry Baby GCB95 which are almost entirely printed with miniscule SMC components and host their jacks on the board itself. One is traditional,small production, flexible and easily maintained. The other barely sees a human hand and if it breaks you throw it in the bin. So as I said, the line in the sand for these things goes between SMC and non SMC. Your Hot Rod Deluxe will play great until it breaks..then you decide whether to chance a fix, order an entirely new board or gut it and go for a tagboard.</div></blockquote><br />Hi, BigTomRodney! No controversy here, do you see one? Anyway back to learning<br /><br />I started this thread to get better ideas about “hand-wired” amps and “non-hand-wired” amps.<br />Hope there is no controversy in that – PLMK.<br /><br />Seems old-schoolers (in general) love the PTP hand-wired amps and many disdain modern amps.<br />Seems there are plenty of 2012 guitarists buying all kinds of solid state amps, amps with PCB board<br />circuitry and amps with both solid state &amp; tube circuitry; as well as PTP wired tube amps.<br />Seems, Fender banked their company on the Supersonic line, solid state amps, and many reissues<br />that may or may not use PCB boards (same as Peavey, Marshall, etc.). Fender makes few all tube amps.<br /><br />With that said, reading many current thread responses and many comments elsewhere, the complaints<br />against PTP hand-wired tube amps are: no headphone jack, missing most advantages of modern technology,<br />amp modeling, large variety of vintage &amp; burn tone emulation, double &amp; triple high gain options,<br />better bias adjustment capabilities, and more etc.<br /><br />I call modern amps “PCB amps” and after reading the great share from BigTomRodney, maybe<br />I should call modern amps “SMT/PCB” amps, and old-school “PTP hand-wired all tube amps”.<br /><br />Works for me. How about you?<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic">***Still, I’d like to know more about the transitions of tag board, SMT &amp; PCB<br />as well if and how they are overlapped or used with each other, etc.</span>]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>bigtomrodney wrote:</cite>I didn't mean to drag this to Marshall as much to reach into my experience as I deal more with Marshall's. Sure you can look at the most productionised amp that is all SMC except for some pot and transformer wiring but that could not in any intellectually honest way be considered handwired. Once you include even a partially SMC built amp all bets are off on tinkering and often for repair work within reason. My point and perhaps I should have been more clear is that in real terms you should not separate an amp built from hand populated etched boards from a turret or tag board. The Marshall example paints a fair picture though it is not a Fender...maybe someone else can provide a similar Fender example. It would be dishonest and arbitrary to lump a hand-etched board that has been hand populated with a motherboard printed in a large industrial press whether from a manufacturing or end product point if view. The fact is you could make an etched board in your home with just a marker and a bath of juristic acid. A good example to lead by would be to compare a 1967 Clyde wah with a few hand populated and solder components which can easily be repaired or modded to a recent construction Vox V847A or Cry Baby GCB95 which are almost entirely printed with miniscule SMC components and host their jacks on the board itself. One is traditional,small production, flexible and easily maintained. The other barely sees a human hand and if it breaks you throw it in the bin. So as I said, the line in the sand for these things goes between SMC and non SMC. Your Hot Rod Deluxe will play great until it breaks..then you decide whether to chance a fix, order an entirely new board or gut it and go for a tagboard.</div></blockquote><br />Hi, BigTomRodney! No controversy here, do you see one? Anyway back to learning<br /><br />I started this thread to get better ideas about “hand-wired” amps and “non-hand-wired” amps.<br />Hope there is no controversy in that – PLMK.<br /><br />Seems old-schoolers (in general) love the PTP hand-wired amps and many disdain modern amps.<br />Seems there are plenty of 2012 guitarists buying all kinds of solid state amps, amps with PCB board<br />circuitry and amps with both solid state &amp; tube circuitry; as well as PTP wired tube amps.<br />Seems, Fender banked their company on the Supersonic line, solid state amps, and many reissues<br />that may or may not use PCB boards (same as Peavey, Marshall, etc.). Fender makes few all tube amps.<br /><br />With that said, reading many current thread responses and many comments elsewhere, the complaints<br />against PTP hand-wired tube amps are: no headphone jack, missing most advantages of modern technology,<br />amp modeling, large variety of vintage &amp; burn tone emulation, double &amp; triple high gain options,<br />better bias adjustment capabilities, and more etc.<br /><br />I call modern amps “PCB amps” and after reading the great share from BigTomRodney, maybe<br />I should call modern amps “SMT/PCB” amps, and old-school “PTP hand-wired all tube amps”.<br /><br />Works for me. How about you?<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic">***Still, I’d like to know more about the transitions of tag board, SMT &amp; PCB<br />as well if and how they are overlapped or used with each other, etc.</span>]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989486#p989486"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T06:30:26+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T06:30:26+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989486#p989486</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>mylescdavis wrote:</cite>  There's no controversy here, so why make one up?</div></blockquote><br />What?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>mylescdavis wrote:</cite>  There's no controversy here, so why make one up?</div></blockquote><br />What?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: Fender &quot;Hand Wired&quot; Amps (new &amp; old) versus &quot;Not HandWir :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989491#p989491"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T07:57:04+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T07:57:04+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101506&amp;p=989491#p989491</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite><span style="font-style: italic">***Still, I’d like to know more about the transitions of tag board, SMT &amp; PCB<br />as well if and how they are overlapped or used with each other, etc.</span></div></blockquote><br /><br />Tons of info on Google on the history of PCB and SMT construction.  It's almost entirely a story of trying to do more in a smaller space and at the same time be less expensive to manufacture in large quantities.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite><span style="font-style: italic">***Still, I’d like to know more about the transitions of tag board, SMT &amp; PCB<br />as well if and how they are overlapped or used with each other, etc.</span></div></blockquote><br /><br />Tons of info on Google on the history of PCB and SMT construction.  It's almost entirely a story of trying to do more in a smaller space and at the same time be less expensive to manufacture in large quantities.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: I luv 'em all :: Author worldoftone</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989471#p989471"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T02:55:48+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T02:55:48+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989471#p989471</id>
        <author>
            <name>worldoftone</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://roscoeiron.com/amps/fenders2.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Just sayin . . .<br /><br />- WOT]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://roscoeiron.com/amps/fenders2.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Just sayin . . .<br /><br />- WOT]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: I luv 'em all :: Reply by joshatatlasstands</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989472#p989472"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T03:00:55+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T03:00:55+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989472#p989472</id>
        <author>
            <name>joshatatlasstands</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[nice collection!]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[nice collection!]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: I luv 'em all :: Reply by Swingville</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989478#p989478"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T05:35:24+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T05:35:24+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989478#p989478</id>
        <author>
            <name>Swingville</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Hi, WOT.<br /><br />Great looking amp collection.<br />Do you ever hook up four in four corners <br />for a bit of &quot;surround sound&quot;  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /> <br /><br />What is the amp on top of the Tweed Bassman?<br />Swingville]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Hi, WOT.<br /><br />Great looking amp collection.<br />Do you ever hook up four in four corners <br />for a bit of &quot;surround sound&quot;  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /> <br /><br />What is the amp on top of the Tweed Bassman?<br />Swingville]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Fender :: Re: I luv 'em all :: Reply by mylescdavis</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989492#p989492"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T08:08:57+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T08:08:57+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=8&amp;t=101674&amp;p=989492#p989492</id>
        <author>
            <name>mylescdavis</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Fender" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>Hi, WOT.<br /><br />Great looking amp collection.<br />Do you ever hook up four in four corners <br />for a bit of &quot;surround sound&quot;  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /> <br /><br />What is the amp on top of the Tweed Bassman?<br />Swingville</div></blockquote><br /><br />Remember this page I keep linking to?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/" class="postlink">http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html" class="postlink">http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html</a><br /><br /><img src="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie_gold_f.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Swingville wrote:</cite>Hi, WOT.<br /><br />Great looking amp collection.<br />Do you ever hook up four in four corners <br />for a bit of &quot;surround sound&quot;  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /> <br /><br />What is the amp on top of the Tweed Bassman?<br />Swingville</div></blockquote><br /><br />Remember this page I keep linking to?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/" class="postlink">http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html" class="postlink">http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie.html</a><br /><br /><img src="http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/deluxe_woodie_gold_f.jpg" alt="Image" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Ampeg :: Re: Ampeg M15 Big M Cap Can question... :: Reply by P-Dawg</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989400#p989400"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T12:50:24+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T12:50:24+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989400#p989400</id>
        <author>
            <name>P-Dawg</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Ampeg" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0733.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0732.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0731.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0730.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0729.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0728.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0734.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Here they are. The PT is defunct and the control panel has a dent in it that'll need hammering out.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0733.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0732.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0731.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0730.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0729.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0728.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v435/rluedeman/DSC_0734.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br />Here they are. The PT is defunct and the control panel has a dent in it that'll need hammering out.  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Ampeg :: Re: Ampeg M15 Big M Cap Can question... :: Reply by Baron Von Machinenmann</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989438#p989438"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T17:40:28+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T17:40:28+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989438#p989438</id>
        <author>
            <name>Baron Von Machinenmann</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Ampeg" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Damn skippy amp there Dawg, any idea which (brand) pt you'll end up with?  Is there a usable schematic inside of the rear panel?]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Damn skippy amp there Dawg, any idea which (brand) pt you'll end up with?  Is there a usable schematic inside of the rear panel?]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Ampeg :: Re: Ampeg M15 Big M Cap Can question... :: Reply by P-Dawg</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989456#p989456"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T21:31:05+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T21:31:05+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=52&amp;t=100579&amp;p=989456#p989456</id>
        <author>
            <name>P-Dawg</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Ampeg" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Baron Von Machinenmann wrote:</cite>Damn skippy amp there Dawg, any idea which (brand) pt you'll end up with?  Is there a usable schematic inside of the rear panel?</div></blockquote><br /><br />The schematic is in the inside. The commonly available Joe Piazza schematic contains a number of errors. <br /><br />As it happens I have a NOS Stancor power transformer that is just the ticket for this amp, already swapped the bells over. I ordered a JJ LCR style 40-20-20-20 can cap for this beast as it is significantly less cash than the Mallory FP types. I've got to take the pots out and straighten out the panel with a little bodywork.<br /><br />If it sounds anywhere near as good as the other one that was around here I'll be a happy guy. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<blockquote><div><cite>Baron Von Machinenmann wrote:</cite>Damn skippy amp there Dawg, any idea which (brand) pt you'll end up with?  Is there a usable schematic inside of the rear panel?</div></blockquote><br /><br />The schematic is in the inside. The commonly available Joe Piazza schematic contains a number of errors. <br /><br />As it happens I have a NOS Stancor power transformer that is just the ticket for this amp, already swapped the bells over. I ordered a JJ LCR style 40-20-20-20 can cap for this beast as it is significantly less cash than the Mallory FP types. I've got to take the pots out and straighten out the panel with a little bodywork.<br /><br />If it sounds anywhere near as good as the other one that was around here I'll be a happy guy. <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />  <img src="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/images/smilies/cheers.gif" alt=":cheers:" title="Cheers" />]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Miscellaneous American Amplifiers :: Re: 1974 Traynor yba-1 bias cap values question(s) :: Reply by stratele52</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=101533&amp;p=989395#p989395"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T11:20:12+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T11:20:12+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=101533&amp;p=989395#p989395</id>
        <author>
            <name>stratele52</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Miscellaneous American Amplifiers" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[The bigger is the better for a &quot;quiet&quot; output tubes. 100 mfd is good value.]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[The bigger is the better for a &quot;quiet&quot; output tubes. 100 mfd is good value.]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Speakers and Cabinets :: Do Black Shadow MC-90 Celestions exist with 444 cones? :: Author aaron.</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=101675&amp;p=989488#p989488"/>
        <published>2012-05-17T07:14:00+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-17T07:14:00+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=101675&amp;p=989488#p989488</id>
        <author>
            <name>aaron.</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Speakers and Cabinets" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Didn't find the answer in any searching. So, the Celestion made Black Shadow C-90 speakers... were/are any made with 444 cones? Ebay watching, the sellers I've asked have all replied theirs have 1777 cones. Just curious...]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Didn't find the answer in any searching. So, the Celestion made Black Shadow C-90 speakers... were/are any made with 444 cones? Ebay watching, the sellers I've asked have all replied theirs have 1777 cones. Just curious...]]></summary>
    </entry>
    <entry>
        <title>Bass Talk :: Help me find a cab :: Author Bleuz me</title>
        <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=101669&amp;p=989421#p989421"/>
        <published>2012-05-16T15:31:09+00:00</published>
        <updated>2012-05-16T15:31:09+00:00</updated>
        <id>http://www.vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=101669&amp;p=989421#p989421</id>
        <author>
            <name>Bleuz me</name>
        </author>
        <category term="Bass Talk" />
        <content type="html"><![CDATA[Lookin for a Marshall DBS 7412. Appears most went to Europe. Would pay $350 for a good one. It might cost me more than that to ship from Europe. Anyone from Canada or the USA...lets talk. I'm in the USA.<br />Thanks, Dave]]></content>
        <summary type="html"><![CDATA[Lookin for a Marshall DBS 7412. Appears most went to Europe. Would pay $350 for a good one. It might cost me more than that to ship from Europe. Anyone from Canada or the USA...lets talk. I'm in the USA.<br />Thanks, Dave]]></summary>
    </entry>
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